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Post by Loki on Nov 23, 2008 17:17:15 GMT -5
I kind of don't want a playoff. I just like watching the bowls every year. I don't see why they couldn't do both. You hold an 8-team playoff utilizing the BCS Bowls for different locations and then do the rest of the bowls like normal. It's a win-win in my opinion. No one would get left out or anything like that. I think that's something people are missing out on, both could be done. There just needs to be a playoff for the National Title instead of a flawed computer/person system. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 23, 2008 20:08:51 GMT -5
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? Not that it matters. "no" is generally a word of disagreement theres no reason to add more pointless criteria trying to make it even more unlikely that the best two teams are playing in the championship. Why should a team that loses just one game in-conference overall (but doesnt win the conference) be considered less qualified than a team that wins their conference despite several losses and loses games OOC? |
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Post by JacktheRipper on Nov 23, 2008 22:20:21 GMT -5
Conference Championship games are a huge part of the problem. Either every conference has to have them or none should. In some cases it works, such as the SEC this year. Some places it doesn't, like the Big XII this year.
Oh and I agree with David here, winning your conference championship shouldn't matter in terms of making the National Championship. Coming out of the Big XII this year with one loss is more impressive than coming out of the ACC or Big East undefeated.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Nov 23, 2008 22:34:26 GMT -5
I hate the damn rule that allows non-BCS teams an automatic bid... we would mop the floor with Utah right now (And Boise State as well).
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Post by JacktheRipper on Nov 23, 2008 22:49:33 GMT -5
I hate the damn rule that allows non-BCS teams an automatic bid... we would mop the floor with Utah right now (And Boise State as well). Me as well. All in the spirit of fairness right? Too bad any Top 10 BCS team would wipe the floor with them. |
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Post by Loki on Nov 23, 2008 22:51:29 GMT -5
I was pretty close on my call for Texas Tech, they dropped to #7.
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 23, 2008 22:54:34 GMT -5
I hate the damn rule that allows non-BCS teams an automatic bid... we would mop the floor with Utah right now (And Boise State as well). Me as well. All in the spirit of fairness right? Too bad any Top 10 BCS team would wipe the floor with them. same could be said for the acc and big east champion |
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Post by JacktheRipper on Nov 23, 2008 23:11:52 GMT -5
Me as well. All in the spirit of fairness right? Too bad any Top 10 BCS team would wipe the floor with them. same could be said for the acc and big east champion You realize I'd be more than happy to kick them out too. |
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Post by bearcat on Nov 23, 2008 23:31:27 GMT -5
Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? Not that it matters. "no" is generally a word of disagreement theres no reason to add more pointless criteria trying to make it even more unlikely that the best two teams are playing in the championship. Why should a team that loses just one game in-conference overall (but doesnt win the conference) be considered less qualified than a team that wins their conference despite several losses and loses games OOC? Forgot about the Oregon State loss to PSU...I think they lost one more besides that, as well. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 23, 2008 23:36:01 GMT -5
same could be said for the acc and big east champion You realize I'd be more than happy to kick them out too. I do, just saying to sportsbuck that overall letting an ACC team in that will have four losses or someone like cincinnati is worse than an undefeated utah or boise st. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 23, 2008 23:39:09 GMT -5
"no" is generally a word of disagreement theres no reason to add more pointless criteria trying to make it even more unlikely that the best two teams are playing in the championship. Why should a team that loses just one game in-conference overall (but doesnt win the conference) be considered less qualified than a team that wins their conference despite several losses and loses games OOC? Forgot about the Oregon State loss to PSU...I think they lost one more besides that, as well. they lost to utah I didnt even mean that specifically to this instance, but just as an overall rule adding more restrictions to who can play in the championship game can only help to keep out a deserving team. |
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Post by Sportsbuck on Nov 24, 2008 21:36:27 GMT -5
You realize I'd be more than happy to kick them out too. I do, just saying to sportsbuck that overall letting an ACC team in that will have four losses or someone like cincinnati is worse than an undefeated utah or boise st. I wish we could just keep them both out. |
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Post by bearcat on Nov 24, 2008 22:43:40 GMT -5
Forgot about the Oregon State loss to PSU...I think they lost one more besides that, as well. they lost to utah I didnt even mean that specifically to this instance, but just as an overall rule adding more restrictions to who can play in the championship game can only help to keep out a deserving team. I see what you mean now. Why add more flaws to an already flawed system? |
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Post by Jewel27 on Nov 25, 2008 1:52:49 GMT -5
Wow...havent been on here for almost a week already....Had a great time closing "kinnick north" in Minneapolis this weekend!!! Just got back tonight from a great weekend of partying!!! I dont know whether iowa has improved so much so the first half of the season or Minnesota is just garbage.... Probably a little of both... I kind of don't want a playoff. I just like watching the bowls every year. I don't see why they couldn't do both. You hold an 8-team playoff utilizing the BCS Bowls for different locations and then do the rest of the bowls like normal. It's a win-win in my opinion. No one would get left out or anything like that. I think that's something people are missing out on, both could be done. There just needs to be a playoff for the National Title instead of a flawed computer/person system. I agree with you Loki...I think they need to find a way to create a playoff based on the BCS and create bowl games based on how the playoffs go.... |
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 26, 2008 21:09:12 GMT -5
something else terrible is that its better to lose to a bad team instead of a really good team. Say team A and team B are both 11-1 at the end of the year with reasonably similar schedules and margins of victory. Team A lost to team B by 3, team B lost to someone who finished 6-6 by 10.
Who do you think voters put higher?
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Post by Sportsbuck on Nov 26, 2008 23:00:16 GMT -5
something else terrible is that its better to lose to a bad team instead of a really good team. Say team A and team B are both 11-1 at the end of the year with reasonably similar schedules and margins of victory. Team A lost to team B by 3, team B lost to someone who finished 6-6 by 10. Who do you think voters put higher? Depends on the timing of the losses. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Nov 26, 2008 23:03:19 GMT -5
something else terrible is that its better to lose to a bad team instead of a really good team. Say team A and team B are both 11-1 at the end of the year with reasonably similar schedules and margins of victory. Team A lost to team B by 3, team B lost to someone who finished 6-6 by 10. Who do you think voters put higher? Depends on the timing of the losses. shouldnt matter but assume they both happened in the middle of the season (weeks 5-7). |
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