Week 15 thread

[Just Blaze]

Lets see, Houston is playing Denver and winning 10-6 right now. I THINK there's a game on Saturday being broadcast live on the NFL network as well. Mario Williams is beastin tonight and I was surprised to hear he has 10 1/2 sacks for the season. And he's in his sophomore year in the NFL

the guy is a beast but will always be overlooked

[Claytons Crew]

I played Houston +2 and Over 47.

[JackTheRipper]

Going to see the Browns and Bills tangle it up at Browns stadium sunday. My first game in quite awhile. Who thought the Browns/Bills match-up would be important?

[Claytons Crew]

Damn, won on the Texans lost on the over.

I might be going to the Dolphins and Ravens game...combine them teams and you get a 4-22 team. Oh yeah, they are also both in last place.

[ChisAto]

woo 20 fantasy points from Andre Johnson last night.

[Leak2Troupe03]

claytonscrew said:

Damn, won on the Texans lost on the over.

I might be going to the Dolphins and Ravens game...combine them teams and you get a 4-22 team. Oh yeah, they are also both in last place.

Dolphins 6-3 Ravens. That'll probably be the final score. I really think the Dolphins are going to beat us. I see us finishing 4-12...

[Sportsbuck]

Billick should let Troy play a whole lot more down the stretch to see if he can really play QB for them.

[Leak2Troupe03]

I doubt he will because of the Boller situation. I guess they want to see if Boller is the real deal? Idk, but this has been a hard season to watch. I'm watching basically the same team as last year go from 13-3 to probably 4-12 with a better running back. We're not going to fire Billick, and he's done nothing good for this offense. So instead I get to watch him stick with terrible quarterbacks, have terrible play calls, and him blow kisses to opposing defenders.

[Sportsbuck]

Billick's already been guarenteed that he's coming back next year, so what does he have to lose by letting Troy play?

[Just Blaze]

im sure he'll play Troy when his team loses to the Dolphins because they have no more passion.

[Leak2Troupe03]

Why not just put Ed Reed at quarterback? Atleast it's more exciting than Boller, or McNair. I wouldn't mind seeing Troy Smith play though. He wants to prove so much that he'll do anything on that field. Right now, we need a guy like that. Everybody looks like they're just either A. sticking to the injury report because the seasons over or B. playing like slugs and don't really give a damn.

[Claytons Crew]

I would like to see Smith play because I don't think he's cut out to be an NFL QB. I think he's like a Brad Smith typer...a decent/good college QB but now converted to a wide receiver.

Regardless the Dolphins have no offense at all but neither do the Ravens. The Dolphins defense is just "ok" same with the Ravens.

The Dolphins should have won 5 or 6 games already because in those 5-6 games they have been in it and have only lost by 3. They are already starting the FIRE CAM CAMERON down here.

[Sportsbuck]

claytonscrew said:

I would like to see Smith play because I don't think he's cut out to be an NFL QB. I think he's like a Brad Smith typer...a decent/good college QB but now converted to a wide receiver.

Comparing Troy Smith to Brad Smith is a horrible comparison. Brad ran all the time in college with a little throwing mixed in, while Troy threw the ball a lot his senior year and developed into an excellent passer who rarely ran. Brad scrambled around to run for yards, while Troy scrambled around to allow his receivers to get open.

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

Sidenote: Troy is a terrible receiver. That was his first position when he came in as a freshman, and during his redshirt year the coaching staff got so upset about his constant drops from lack of good hands that they moved him to QB, and the rest was history.

[Claytons Crew]

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

True, but I could not find another word so I used those. You don't think he was a "great" college QB do you?

[JackTheRipper]

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

Um, ever heard of Andre Ware? Was he a "great" college QB?

[Claytons Crew]

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

One more thing to add to that statement...just because you win the heisman does not mean your "great". For example take the man in your avatar, Tommy Frazier. He never won a heisman and he WAS a great QB. He led his team to back to back national championships and he's the only QB to do that since like 1950.

[Sportsbuck]

claytonscrew said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

True, but I could not find another word so I used those. You don't think he was a "great" college QB do you?

Yes, I do. The man was 25-3 as a quarterback, and had a TD-INT ratio of 54-13 for his career, not to mention a QB rating of nearly 160.

jacktheripper said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

Um, ever heard of Andre Ware? Was he a "great" college QB?

Yes. You don't put up those statistics in college without being a great QB.

claytonscrew said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

And how can you label a quarterback who won the Heisman Trophy as a decent/good college QB?

One more thing to add to that statement...just because you win the heisman does not mean your "great". For example take the man in your avatar, Tommy Frazier. He never won a heisman and he WAS a great QB. He led his team to back to back national championships and he's the only QB to do that since like 1950.

I realize that. Not all great players win the Heisman, but it takes a great player to do so.

[JackTheRipper]

sportsbuck2745 said:

Yes. You don't put up those statistics in college without being a great QB.

Then you think Timmy Chang was a great college QB?

[Claytons Crew]

jacktheripper said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

Yes. You don't put up those statistics in college without being a great QB.

Then you think Timmy Chang was a great college QB?

Chang didn't play the teams that OSU did. You can't even compare Chang and Smith.

[Sportsbuck]

jacktheripper said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

Yes. You don't put up those statistics in college without being a great QB.

Then you think Timmy Chang was a great college QB?

Passing TD's and Passing yards are the most worthless statistics when comparing QB's. The best two to look at is completion percentage and passer rating, as well as seeing how many interceptions are thrown.