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Post by bearcat on Feb 5, 2008 9:46:29 GMT -5
Not the way it's been implied about the Patriots in the past week and even Steve Young and someone else on ESPN said that that's not true about everyone cheating, it's just not true, certainly not in the way or to the extent the Patriots have. Trying to see 50 yards across the field is one thing, using a camera to catch those signals and all the calls at walkthrough, then filming and sending the calls down to the coach so he can make the perfect call is another. Yes, please ask Steve Young if he gets any special treatment at restaurants or clubs, I can guarantee he says no...but when it comes down to it he does. It's not a big deal, really. Whats done is done. The way david is acting, he thinks there going to kick the Patriots out of the league. They won 18 games in a row. That takes a lot to do and it's a very hard thing to do. Cheating happens in every sport. Do you guys really think all these refs don't bet? I'm pretty sure 65% of the NFL refs bet. How about the players? I know they bet. You guys must be blind to this kind of stuff if you think JUST the Patriots were cheating. I wish I still had a SI article from around week 1 of the NFL season. They talked about how some of the older coaches taped other opponents and were caught but never turned in by the other team. One more thing, you guys are listening to what the MEDIA has to say. They are the biggest joke on earth and of course they are going to blow things out of proportion because thats what they do. Last sentence is completely true. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 11:23:29 GMT -5
How many congressman want to investigate the other 31 teams? How many stories about their videomen are out there? How many had tapes destroyed for no good reason? I dont see why you cant see how big of a story this is. And in case you've been dead for the past week, the NFL is looking in to them filming a Rams walkthrough. Look at these facts: The Patriots performed much better than expectations in that super bowl. The Patriots were caught cheating this year. There is a source who says they cheated in that game. Occam's Razor applies perfectly here. Yes, obviously they were cheating in the Super Bowl, because they preformed better. I mean, the Rockies got to the World Series by playing like they did all year long, they didn't catch fire or anything. Teams never play better when somethings on the line. Why are all you people so stupid? Do you not understand that teams who have already been caught cheating and who are already being investigated for additional cheating are more likely to have cheated at other times as well? |
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Post by Just Blaze on Feb 5, 2008 12:42:23 GMT -5
Yes, obviously they were cheating in the Super Bowl, because they preformed better. I mean, the Rockies got to the World Series by playing like they did all year long, they didn't catch fire or anything. Teams never play better when somethings on the line. Why are all you people so stupid? Do you not understand that teams who have already been caught cheating and who are already being investigated for additional cheating are more likely to have cheated at other times as well? I think bstn was just kidding. your response had me scratching my head David. |
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Post by Loki on Feb 5, 2008 13:20:01 GMT -5
Clayton, you're listening to the media too if you truly believe that every team cheats and I even said if they do, it's not on a level like the Patriots. Videotaping signals and plays and everything is only the tip of the iceberg. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter.
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 13:21:39 GMT -5
Why are all you people so stupid? Do you not understand that teams who have already been caught cheating and who are already being investigated for additional cheating are more likely to have cheated at other times as well? I think bstn was just kidding. your response had me scratching my head David. No, he was saying the exact same thing yambags #1 and #2 said, which is if that I think the patriots were cheating because the pulled off a huge upset (ignoring that theyve already been caught cheating on other occasions and are being investigated on even more accusations) then every team that pulls off an upset should be expected of cheating. |
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Post by JacktheRipper on Feb 5, 2008 14:33:38 GMT -5
The bigger point here is that everyone cheats. The ones who make a big deal over the Pats doing it, just hate the Pats because they are good.
If anyone claims that other teams don't cheat, you are either stupid or naive.
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 14:41:10 GMT -5
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 14:41:38 GMT -5
The bigger point here is that everyone cheats. The ones who make a big deal over the Pats doing it, just hate the Pats because they are good. If anyone claims that other teams don't cheat, you are either stupid or naive. No ones taken it to the level of NE though. |
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Post by sep on Feb 5, 2008 14:42:11 GMT -5
ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED
3 Super Bowl rings, 2 MVPs, numerous records
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Post by Claytons Crew on Feb 5, 2008 14:42:26 GMT -5
Clayton, you're listening to the media too if you truly believe that every team cheats and I even said if they do, it's not on a level like the Patriots. Videotaping signals and plays and everything is only the tip of the iceberg. Nonetheless, it doesn't matter. I'm not listening to the media at all. They are making it seem like the Patriots are the only ones cheating. I know in my job a fair amount of cheating is done and I can even admit I've cheated. |
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Post by sep on Feb 5, 2008 14:43:04 GMT -5
No ones taken it to the level of NE though. Hints why no one else has won 3 super bowls this decade. Maybe they should take some better notes. |
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Post by Claytons Crew on Feb 5, 2008 14:48:13 GMT -5
The bigger point here is that everyone cheats. The ones who make a big deal over the Pats doing it, just hate the Pats because they are good. If anyone claims that other teams don't cheat, you are either stupid or naive. No ones taken it to the level of NE though. Bama, can you please ban this tool? Hate the game not the player. Your infatuated with the Pats or something. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 14:53:08 GMT -5
-most wins in a season without winning the super bowl -fewest losses in a season without winning the super bowl -largest fine in NFL history for cheating -most seconds left on the clock in the super bowl when a head coach leaves for the lockerroom and more |
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Post by sep on Feb 5, 2008 14:54:20 GMT -5
-most wins in a season without winning the super bowl -fewest losses in a season without winning the super bowl Thats cause the Giants cheated as you pointed out earlier. How else could they have won that game. |
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 15:02:41 GMT -5
-most wins in a season without winning the super bowl -fewest losses in a season without winning the super bowl Thats cause the Giants cheated as you pointed out earlier. How else could they have won that game. are you just pretending to be stupid or are you always like this? |
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Post by detroitbasketball on Feb 5, 2008 15:29:39 GMT -5
Thats cause the Giants cheated as you pointed out earlier. How else could they have won that game. are you just pretending to be stupid or are you always like this? Are you just pretending to be a massive tool or are you always like this? |
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Post by dkgojackets on Feb 5, 2008 15:31:28 GMT -5
are you just pretending to be stupid or are you always like this? Are you just pretending to be a massive tool or are you always like this? I think my posting itt is very consistent with my previous posting. |
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Post by Just Blaze on Feb 5, 2008 15:42:56 GMT -5
no wonder why sportsbuck left DC  but i agree that david is tryin to back up with his previous posting and now this thread has become a spygate/cheating/joke. how bout yall shut the hell up about this crap. maybe bama should lock this thing since everyone here wants to be anal and shit. |
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Post by JackTheRipper on Feb 5, 2008 15:50:10 GMT -5
I agree. Honestly David, cut this shit out. It might've been funny for awhile when you would come into a thread and act like a prick, but it's just getting old. The Pats cheated? Great, get the f*** over it. And if your response to the sentence "everyone cheats" is anything other than "yes, you're absolutely right", then, as Bama stated, you're stupid or naive.
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Post by Claytons Crew on Feb 5, 2008 17:18:45 GMT -5
I agree. Honestly David, cut this shit out. It might've been funny for awhile when you would come into a thread and act like a prick, but it's just getting old. The Pats cheated? Great, get the f*** over it. And if your response to the sentence "everyone cheats" is anything other than "yes, you're absolutely right", then, as Bama stated, you're stupid or naive. You couldn't have said it better. David's hard on for the Pats is un-real. |
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