Ron Paul is one of the stupidest candidates ever

[Sportsbuck]

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342301/page/4/

MR. RUSSERT: I was intrigued by your comments about Abe Lincoln. "According to Paul, Abe Lincoln should never have gone to war; there were better ways of getting rid of slavery."

REP. PAUL: Absolutely. Six hundred thousand Americans died in a senseless civil war. No, he shouldn't have gone, gone to war. He did this just to enhance and get rid of the original intent of the republic. I mean, it was the--that iron, iron fist..

MR. RUSSERT: We'd still have slavery.

REP. PAUL: Oh, come on, Tim. Slavery was phased out in every other country of the world. And the way I'm advising that it should have been done is do like the British empire did. You, you buy the slaves and release them. How much would that cost compared to killing 600,000 Americans and where it lingered for 100 years? I mean, the hatred and all that existed. So every other major country in the world got rid of slavery without a civil war. I mean, that doesn't sound too radical to me. That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.

[JacktheRipper]

OMG The Germans attacked Pearl Harbor and Jesus riding on a dino and such.

Obviously the man's view on the Civil War isn't that simplistic. I saw him in an interview on Real Time With Bill Maher and he got into the state's rights thing and what not. This is one of the reasons I will not be voting for Paul, but taking a snippet from an interview and using that to decide the validity of a candidate is one of the biggest problems in American politics today.

This is one area that I feel Nute Gingrich is dead on about. Instead of these "sound-bite" debates, I wish we could get the candidates together for a 90 minute debate on a specific issue. You know, so the people can hear a real plan laid out and see which of them have the ideas that most fit them. All we get today are sound-bites, little 30 second answers that give us no actual information. I mean really, all elections come down to is if the person is likable or not. It's that simple people. Money doesn't matter, party doesn't matter (Indies decide who wins, the two parties core cancel each other out), policy doesn't matter.

I'm not trying to point you out here Sportsbuck, this is just one thing I'm annoyed about with our political process.

[detroitbasketball]

The thing that annoys me most about our political process......is the political process.

[McGahee]

What he's saying isn't exactly stupid. Asides from the fact that his personal views on what happened 150 years ago is almost completely irrelevant, that actually shows that he actually would give a rats ass about our troop situation and wouldn't want people dying in senseless wars. This Mr. Russert is an idiot for assuming we'd still have slavery. Is there a chance it would still exist? Yes very much so, but Paul made the point that nobody, with the exception of the chaos in Africa (which really didn't start until later) really had slavery issues. Eventually it would seem that it would phase out eventually.

But really, nobody should give a rats ass about what a presidential candidate thinks about a historical event 150 years ago unless it's completely un-patriotic. All I'm seeing is a guy who thought 600,000 Americans dying should have been avoided...

[Keeper]

Hey, at least he's not saying we should quarantine people with AIDS, we wouldn't want a front running politician with a stance like that... oh wait...

[Sportsbuck]

mcgahee26 said:

All I'm seeing is a guy who thought 600,000 Americans dying should have been avoided...

If Lincoln had avoided the war than I would be living in the Confederacy right now as would many other members of DC.

Slavery isn't even the reason that we went to war, and wasn't the cause of it.

[detroitbasketball]

sportsbuck2745 said:

mcgahee26 said:

All I'm seeing is a guy who thought 600,000 Americans dying should have been avoided...

If Lincoln had avoided the war than I would be living in the Confederacy right now as would many other members of DC.

Slavery isn't even the reason that we went to war, and wasn't the cause of it.

Correction: slavery is just ONE of the MANY reasons we went to war.

[Freak93]

detroitbasketball said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

If Lincoln had avoided the war than I would be living in the Confederacy right now as would many other members of DC.

Slavery isn't even the reason that we went to war, and wasn't the cause of it.

Correction: slavery is just ONE of the MANY reasons we went to war.

I was waiting for this. I just got my head pounded with Civil War stuff for the past few weeks in my history course.

[Loki]

Ron Paul is a jackass. Not sure how or why so many people are backing him besides his stereotypical behavior. Seriously, he seems to be targetting the over-the-edge punk kids or some shit with some of the things he says. The only belief system I've yet to see him try to connect himself with is being straight edge, but I'm sure he'll do it if it means he sways more stupid kids.

[Freak93]

There are a lot of Ron Paul signs on my way to campus. There is a huge one draped on the side of the mountain. Yeah...

[Buzz Killington]

I just read a chapter of history. The Civil War was inevitable, and yes, slavery was the major cause because it caused the other causes.

[Loki]

freak93 said:

There are a lot of Ron Paul signs on my way to campus. There is a huge one draped on the side of the mountain. Yeah...

Pretty much my point. He's got those mindless idiots at his feet. There were two draped over some little overpass like two minutes from my house but I think they're gone.

[Sportsbuck]

usmaman said:

I just read a chapter of history. The Civil War was inevitable, and yes, slavery was the major cause because it caused the other causes.

Yes, it was the major cause, but it wasn't the end all cause it's made out to be, meaning that there were other contributing causes. That was the point I was trying to make but it was 1:30 in the morning, and I had just listened to Lou Holtz speak, so cut me some slack.

[detroitbasketball]

sportsbuck2745 said:

Slavery isn't even the reason that we went to war, and wasn't the cause of it.

sportsbuck2745 said:

Yes, it was the major cause, but it wasn't the end all cause it's made out to be, meaning that there were other contributing causes.

Lou Holtz doesn't make people change their opinion THAT much.

[Sportsbuck]

No, but his voice alone makes you lose around 50 IQ points. That and he seems to pile up more gunk on the sides of his mouth than any other old person in the world.

[dkgojackets]

Alright, he says that it isnt necessary to go to war to end slavery. We didnt go to war to end slavery, the civil war was about other things. Slavery ended anyway.

The comment "We'd still have slavery" is incredibly misguided and erroneus.

[dkgojackets]

In summation,

Ron Paul is the man and all you better vote for him in primaries.

[detroitbasketball]

david said:

Alright, he says that it isnt necessary to go to war to end slavery. We didnt go to war to end slavery, the civil war was about other things. Slavery ended anyway.

The comment "We'd still have slavery" is incredibly misguided and erroneus.

You're only a couple posts late with your astute observation.

Even though I'm a republican, I wouldn't vote for Paul in the primaries. He reminds me of my nutty grandfather. There are other candidates I trust and agree with more.

[Sportsbuck]

I'd trust my cat more than Ron Paul when it comes to running the country.

[JacktheRipper]

detroitbasketball said:

david said:

Alright, he says that it isnt necessary to go to war to end slavery. We didnt go to war to end slavery, the civil war was about other things. Slavery ended anyway.

The comment "We'd still have slavery" is incredibly misguided and erroneus.

You're only a couple posts late with your astute observation.

Even though I'm a republican, I wouldn't vote for Paul in the primaries. He reminds me of my nutty grandfather. There are other candidates I trust and agree with more.

He's more on mark than most of the GOP candidates. All of them are a bunch of big government types (God I hate using that term, but it sums up what I'm trying to say) who are just going to borrow and spend our generation into a debt that will blow your mind. At least Paul wants to cut spending. What a crazy idea.

The current guys running for President in the Republican party are crap IMO. Rudy "9/11" Giuliani, Mike "Jesus Rules" Huckabee, and Mitt Romney don't exactly induce much love in my heart.