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Post by Freak93 on Feb 19, 2008 21:47:21 GMT -5
See, I like the idea of pot legal for other reasons. I would rather see some teenager go to a store and get pot than deal with some shady guy who will push worse drugs on them.
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Post by D-Mac on Feb 19, 2008 21:49:36 GMT -5
I know your said you were agreeing with me, but are you going to stop doing it? Thats what bothers me, A lot of people I know think since they got away with it the first time, that they should keep doing it. Though, I'm sorry to attack you bro. I'm firmly against alcohol and drugs simply because I have seen the effects that it has on people. Now I know some people may be able to be responsible with them, but for the most part people aren't responsible with them and therefore I oppose them fircely. K well here's what im gonna say. I used to think the same thing dude, my mom is an alcoholic and I swore off when I was around 14 that i would never ever drink. Then in my late 15's I decided I would drink some, the first night I ever drank I walked home at like 2 in the mornin to sneak back in my house and who else but a cop pulls me over. He asks me what I have been doing and I make up this really good lie and I thought i was free but then he asks if I have been drinking and i said no at first and then he said tell the truth and I was like ya. He said he wasnt gonna tell my parents or anything and he took me home so it was cool. This shows that I have seen how u can get caught, and just like 1 months ago I got caught with a bottle of hpnotiq in my hand and blew way over the limit but the cop let me go again. I have actually learned from these situations and havent drove drunk since that last incident and I doubt I ever will. Driving high is not that bad because cops cant trace it if u dont have any on u and its not as hard to drive. basically what im saying is i have learned my lesson about driving drunk and dont do it anymore. |
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Post by jct32 on Feb 19, 2008 21:50:04 GMT -5
This may sound a little harsh but if you are so desperate you have to go a shady guy and get it from him, and he pushes other drugs on you, then I have no sympathy for you.
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Post by detroitbasketball on Feb 19, 2008 21:50:53 GMT -5
You also imply that it's not a bad thing to do if you don't get caught, and that mindset concerns me.
I'm not trying to judge you or anything turnin, I'm just making an observation.
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Post by jct32 on Feb 19, 2008 21:53:59 GMT -5
I know your said you were agreeing with me, but are you going to stop doing it? Thats what bothers me, A lot of people I know think since they got away with it the first time, that they should keep doing it. Though, I'm sorry to attack you bro. I'm firmly against alcohol and drugs simply because I have seen the effects that it has on people. Now I know some people may be able to be responsible with them, but for the most part people aren't responsible with them and therefore I oppose them fircely. K well here's what im gonna say. I used to think the same thing dude, my mom is an alcoholic and I swore off when I was around 14 that i would never ever drink. Then in my late 15's I decided I would drink some, the first night I ever drank I walked home at like 2 in the mornin to sneak back in my house and who else but a cop pulls me over. He asks me what I have been doing and I make up this really good lie and I thought i was free but then he asks if I have been drinking and i said no at first and then he said tell the truth and I was like ya. He said he wasnt gonna tell my parents or anything and he took me home so it was cool. This shows that I have seen how u can get caught, and just like 1 months ago I got caught with a bottle of hpnotiq in my hand and blew way over the limit but the cop let me go again. I have actually learned from these situations and havent drove drunk since that last incident and I doubt I ever will. Driving high is not that bad because cops cant trace it if u dont have any on u and its not as hard to drive. basically what im saying is i have learned my lesson about driving drunk and dont do it anymore. That time I wasn't going after you personally I'm just saying alot of teenagers will think that they got away with it one time so they will keep on doing it and eventually someone innocent will end up getting hurt or even killed. Though I am glad that you decided to quit drinking and driving, now I would like to see you quit drinking completely but sometimes I know its hard to quit. |
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Post by jct32 on Feb 19, 2008 21:55:17 GMT -5
You also imply that it's not a bad thing to do if you don't get caught, and that mindset concerns me. I'm not trying to judge you or anything turnin, I'm just making an observation. Completely agree, some people are ignorant and think its ok if they get away with it, is it right if you kill someone and get away with it? Sorry to go after you there Turnin. |
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Post by Freak93 on Feb 19, 2008 21:58:04 GMT -5
This may sound a little harsh but if you are so desperate you have to go a shady guy and get it from him, and he pushes other drugs on you, then I have no sympathy for you. Not every area has a friendly hippie to get them some weed. I am thinking of an inner city situation where a younger teen would end up going to someone in a gang. Assuming an age limit on pot if it were legal, I would expect the 16 year old to pay someone legal to get him the pot than deal with a shady person. |
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Post by jct32 on Feb 19, 2008 22:02:09 GMT -5
Still don't agree freak. If you have to stoop to that low of a level to do it then its controlling your life and you need to stop. Now, I wasn't saying that everyone has a local friendly hippie or anything. I just think that if you have to go to a person of shady character to get something then it should be outlawed. Now I'm not saying that if you got it from a person of good character that it should be legalized
*Did this paragraph make sense, I felt like I couldn't put my thoughts into words.
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Post by D-Mac on Feb 19, 2008 22:08:08 GMT -5
Jct when u said quit drinking like its a habit, that kind of confused me. I can go a year without drinking dude, Its not an addiction to me at all. I do it at parties or with my friends. I never have a mindset really of, Damn i wanna get sloshed tonight. Its always I wanna have fun tonight.
Drinking is not a big deal to me at all, If i do it I do if i dont i dont, I actually didnt drink for like a month before this weekend we just had, alcohol i find not addicting at all and if I did drink every week I would prolly get tired of it.
Also weed im far from addicted to I smoke just because I've givent that shit up for like 8 months before, I have a hard time getting addicted to stuff.
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Post by Freak93 on Feb 19, 2008 22:10:02 GMT -5
Still don't agree freak. If you have to stoop to that low of a level to do it then its controlling your life and you need to stop. Now, I wasn't saying that everyone has a local friendly hippie or anything. I just think that if you have to go to a person of shady character to get something then it should be outlawed. Now I'm not saying that if you got it from a person of good character that it should be legalized *Did this paragraph make sense, I felt like I couldn't put my thoughts into words. I am getting that you are thinking this with marijuana legal. I was talking in a sense where marijuana was illegal. If it were legal, they would avoid these characters much more and lower the risk of getting caught up in something terrible. |
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Post by D-Mac on Feb 19, 2008 22:12:33 GMT -5
This may sound a little harsh but if you are so desperate you have to go a shady guy and get it from him, and he pushes other drugs on you, then I have no sympathy for you. I think i would have to agree with this if u are able to be pushed around into other drugs then ur just stupid. |
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Post by Loki on Feb 19, 2008 22:15:02 GMT -5
If Marijuana were legal, people would just do Cocaine.
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Post by Freak93 on Feb 19, 2008 22:15:03 GMT -5
This may sound a little harsh but if you are so desperate you have to go a shady guy and get it from him, and he pushes other drugs on you, then I have no sympathy for you. I think i would have to agree with this if u are able to be pushed around into other drugs then ur just stupid. I think that is true, you should be your own person and be able to withstand it. Sadly, not everyone in this world is as strong minded like every member on this website. |
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Post by detroitbasketball on Feb 19, 2008 22:36:03 GMT -5
I think i would have to agree with this if u are able to be pushed around into other drugs then ur just stupid. I think that is true, you should be your own person and be able to withstand it. Sadly, not everyone in this world is as strong minded like every member on this website. And sadly, not everyone in the world would be able to use marijuana safely and in moderation. And therein lies the problem. I just worry about what some people could do... |
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Post by bearcat on Feb 19, 2008 22:37:43 GMT -5
I don't smoke it, nor will I ever, but I don't see why it's considered to be much more dangerous than alcohol. I've only been to a few parties in college where I HAVEN'T seen it or smelled it.
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Post by PrimadonnaPictures on Feb 19, 2008 22:42:39 GMT -5
Like I said, still penalties. Most of that more important crimes are because of drug/alcohol influence I think the last thing a pothead wants to do is move.. let alone get a gun and kill people that would require movement.. Alcohol is the root of 6 times more crimes in america than illegal drugs. If all the drugs (Heroin, Coke, Pot) are all illegal than I think Alcohol should be too. It should illegal to carry, sell, and buy just like all the illegal drugs. Why should the biggest root of more deaths be a lesser penalty? I say legalize marijuana... so my friend can stop bitching that we'll get caught we toke up.... and as soon as I can get my hands on lsd or shrooms thats my next adventure. But my next adventure is Salvia the cheaper, legal less-lengthy time version of LSD |
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Post by D-Mac on Feb 19, 2008 22:44:37 GMT -5
Like I said, still penalties. Most of that more important crimes are because of drug/alcohol influence I think the last thing a pothead wants to do is move.. let alone get a gun and kill people that would require movement.. Alcohol is the root of 6 times more crimes in america than illegal drugs. If all the drugs (Heroin, Coke, Pot) are all illegal than I think Alcohol should be too. It should illegal to carry, sell, and buy just like all the illegal drugs. Why should the biggest root of more deaths be a lesser penalty? I say legalize marijuana... so my friend can stop bitching that we'll get caught we toke up.... ha u got one of those friends too, lol. That annoys me so much, sad part of it is I used to be one of those sketch kids that would think I would get caught at every bad thing I did. |
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Post by JackTheRipper on Feb 20, 2008 1:19:50 GMT -5
Whatever. Legalize it. It's not like it being illegal is stopping anyone.
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Post by JacktheRipper on Feb 20, 2008 2:50:58 GMT -5
I want to make a few points.
People shouldn't drive under the influence. I would argue that driving high is better than driving drunk due to the fact that most high drivers drive slower. Also, because they are paranoid to a degree, they pay better attention to the traffic rules. Still would rather not have anyone under the influence on the roads.
Secondly, I've never had the desire to do anything dangerous and or criminal (well besides smoking in the first place) while being high. I just think about life and just kind of hang out. Well uh, that and eat.
It's interesting that most people are siding on the ends of the extremes. Either totally illegal, or legalized with driving provisions and what not. One point though, it's not like it's hard to get even though it is illegal. There are three people I know that I could call and have some within the hour. Our drug war has really done the trick.
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Post by jct32 on Feb 20, 2008 9:10:21 GMT -5
Jct when u said quit drinking like its a habit, that kind of confused me. I can go a year without drinking dude, Its not an addiction to me at all. I do it at parties or with my friends. I never have a mindset really of, Damn i wanna get sloshed tonight. Its always I wanna have fun tonight. Drinking is not a big deal to me at all, If i do it I do if i dont i dont, I actually didnt drink for like a month before this weekend we just had, alcohol i find not addicting at all and if I did drink every week I would prolly get tired of it. Also weed im far from addicted to I smoke just because I've givent that shit up for like 8 months before, I have a hard time getting addicted to stuff. Yea I understand that D-Mac. But most of the people I know have the attitude of "Damn I'm going to get f'd up tonight". So it really ticks me off. Now, I know there are people that are responsible with it and such, but I have always been around the ones who are not |
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