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Post by JackTheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 0:32:32 GMT -5
Michigan fans: They talk big, get crushed by Ohio State, and then go back and pick on Michigan State because they obviously cannot beat their "real" rival. Interesting cycle. Except that no Michigan fan here has talked big. I'm insulting his team because all he does is focus on us. At least we've been relevant. We have an embarrassing loss and we're treated like the worst program of all-time. Spartan: Instead of going point-by-point with you (which is pointless because you're a rock head and will never back down), let's put it this way: Michigan is in a down time, but we have a bright future ahead with a new coach, a new offense and still very strong recruiting. Your team sucks and has been irrelevant for as long as one can remember. Stop throwing stones when your team is continuously lumped in with the Purdue's and Minnesota's of the Big Ten. Also, try being a real fan and worrying about your own team for a change. |
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Post by detroitbasketball on Jun 19, 2008 0:34:17 GMT -5
JTR, I must give you props. You brought Sportsbuck back, at least temporarily. Good work, my friend.
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Post by JackTheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 0:46:42 GMT -5
JTR, I must give you props. You brought Sportsbuck back, at least temporarily. Good work, my friend. I do what I can. But let's face it, we all knew he'd be back. |
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Post by I am a huge CUNT on Jun 19, 2008 10:06:51 GMT -5
Our program has been irrelevant? Maybe the last few years or so, but last I checked, we have 3 national championships the last 50 years compared to your half championship. Leaders and best?
Your program has a bright future? Cool. So does mine. Off to our best recruiting start in years with the class of '09. Your hiring of RR actually helped us. Now we get first shot at pocket passers and power running backs. Your new option offense helps us, because instead of attacking our weak corners, you'll be running a lot. Not to mention we now have a coach who appreciates the rivalry.
BTW- I think you make yourself stupid by playing my game. People already hate me so why are you doing the same? Kinda pointless if you ask me.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Jun 19, 2008 11:40:34 GMT -5
Our program has been irrelevant? Maybe the last few years or so, but last I checked, we have 3 national championships the last 50 years compared to your half championship. Leaders and best? Spartan, trying to compare Michigan and Michigan St. isn't a great argument for you. To put it into perspective, Michigan has won 19 bowl games in their history. Michigan State has played in 18. |
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Post by I am a huge CUNT on Jun 19, 2008 12:44:29 GMT -5
3 National Championships mean nothing now? just because we haven't played in as many bowl games?
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Post by JacktheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 13:02:27 GMT -5
3 National Championships mean nothing now? just because we haven't played in as many bowl games? When was your last national championship exactly?  |
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Post by Sportsbuck on Jun 19, 2008 13:35:41 GMT -5
3 National Championships mean nothing now? just because we haven't played in as many bowl games? The fact that they have won more bowl games than you have played in trumps the NC card.. |
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Post by JacktheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 14:24:32 GMT -5
3 National Championships mean nothing now? just because we haven't played in as many bowl games? The fact that they have won more bowl games than you have played in trumps the NC card.. What exactly does playing a bowl matter? I'm going to be honest NCs > Bowl wins. I'd be more willing to point out the 1 AP championship. The other one they can claim in 1965 they split with Alabama. No where else did they win a national title in either the coaches poll or the AP poll, which is the standard. So 2 MNCs compared to Michigan's 1 isn't that impressive. Not to metion, Michigan won their last championship in 1997 and Michigan State won their last in 1965. Their last Big Ten championship was 1990. They're irrelivant, at least compared to the bigger programs of the Big 10 and it's not even close. |
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Post by I am a huge CUNT on Jun 19, 2008 14:42:35 GMT -5
It's not the fact of when they won them, but I think it's dumb to say MSU is far more irrelevant than Michigan when Michigan really hasn't dominated for a long time and they only have one (or .5) and MSU has more than they do.
I never said they didn't have more Big 10 titles and weren't the more successful program, there is no doubt. But to say a team is irrelevant when they have more national titles than you do in the last 50 years is stupid.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Jun 19, 2008 14:50:25 GMT -5
The fact that they have won more bowl games than you have played in trumps the NC card.. What exactly does playing a bowl matter? I'm going to be honest NCs > Bowl wins. I thought we were talking about sustaining long-term relevance... and bowl games are an easy way to see that. |
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Post by ChisAto on Jun 19, 2008 15:52:33 GMT -5
It's not the fact of when they won them, but I think it's dumb to say MSU is far more irrelevant than Michigan when Michigan really hasn't dominated for a long time and they only have one (or .5) and MSU has more than they do. I never said they didn't have more Big 10 titles and weren't the more successful program, there is no doubt. But to say a team is irrelevant when they have more national titles than you do in the last 50 years is stupid. Spartan it's going to be basically impossible for you to sustain that Michigan State is more relevant then Michigan.. Not trying to insult, just saying. |
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Post by Buzz Killington on Jun 19, 2008 16:30:47 GMT -5
He's not trying to say that, chis. He's saying that MSU shouldn't be simply dismissed in a comparison with Michigan.
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Post by JacktheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 16:33:27 GMT -5
What exactly does playing a bowl matter? I'm going to be honest NCs > Bowl wins. I thought we were talking about sustaining long-term relevance... and bowl games are an easy way to see that. What does a bowl matter? You need a 6-6 record to go to a bowl. That my friend doesn't show relevance. Sparty, Michigan State is kind of irrelevant in college football. Sorry, Michigan is far more important. No debate. You're more impressive than Ole Miss for the record, but you're not Michigan and unless you put together a great next 30 years you never will be. You're the Auburn of Michigan... |
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Post by ChisAto on Jun 19, 2008 16:59:08 GMT -5
I thought we were talking about sustaining long-term relevance... and bowl games are an easy way to see that. What does a bowl matter? You need a 6-6 record to go to a bowl. That my friend doesn't show relevance. But in Michigan's current 33 consecutive bowl games streak (longest in the nation), Michigan has been 6-6 once, and 7-5 once. That's two year out of the 33 that they've been at or near the minimum. We've had double digit wins in 14 of those seasons. And the 7-5 season snapped our streak of 10 straight New Years Day Bowls. Is that not relevant enough? (And yeah I know you know Michigan is relevant Bama, I was just arguing your bowl games point) |
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Post by TJFOR3 on Jun 19, 2008 17:05:32 GMT -5
All I have to add is that it's annoying when you guys call Michigan or Michigan State "My program" like you actually have something to do with it.
Carry on with the arguing.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Jun 19, 2008 17:16:15 GMT -5
All I have to add is that it's annoying when you guys call Michigan or Michigan State "My program" like you actually have something to do with it. Carry on with the arguing. I really, quite honestly, hate this view. If I want to call a team "my team", or refer to them as "we" when I talk about them, I'll damn well do it as I please. |
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Post by Sportsbuck on Jun 19, 2008 17:19:35 GMT -5
I thought we were talking about sustaining long-term relevance... and bowl games are an easy way to see that. What does a bowl matter? You need a 6-6 record to go to a bowl. That my friend doesn't show relevance. So, successful seasons don't show relevance? Eh, maybe my point is a bit off though. In recent times, all of the new bowls have made it so that 6-6 teams get into bowls on a regular basis.. so maybe it worked in the past to use bowls to determine relevance, but not now I guess. I'd be up for using top 25 polls as well... but I don't care enough to count them for each team. |
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Post by JacktheRipper on Jun 19, 2008 20:15:36 GMT -5
All I have to add is that it's annoying when you guys call Michigan or Michigan State "My program" like you actually have something to do with it. Carry on with the arguing. I have season tickets for my program, so yeah I contribute to the team and the school. |
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Post by sep on Jun 19, 2008 20:28:58 GMT -5
But to say a team is irrelevant when they have more national titles than you do in the last 50 years is stupid. This is ridiculous. Deciding what teams are relevant by what they've done in the last 50 years? Do you even understand the term relevant? So I guess SMU is relevant still too. (Just one example) |
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