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Post by bearcat on Aug 15, 2007 0:13:54 GMT -5
In recruiting, I've had the clear lead for about ten different players over the whole season. Worked on them, built up the interest, offer a scholarship....yet, I'm about ten or eleven games into my first season with Arizona State, and I have one commit, a three-star receiver. Although, most schools to this point have only 2-3 commits (FSU has a whopping eight to lead the way).
Anyone else having this problem? It's just kinda frustrating knowing you're far in the lead, but he won't pull the trigger on you. One of my recruits I have a big lead with has USC as his second school, but hasn't offered yet. Maybe he's waiting for that offer.
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Post by IXI B@CkSt0P IXI on Aug 15, 2007 0:40:24 GMT -5
I couldn't tell you. The furthest I have advanced in season mode is like week four. I could actually use all the help with recruiting I can get. I don't know what to do or how to do it.
Hopefully I can get some answers from this thread. Good topic Bearcat...
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Post by USN on Aug 15, 2007 0:53:28 GMT -5
yeah, in my dynasty (as Florida)..I got a 5 star kicker through the in-season recruiting...and I busted on six or seven other guys
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Post by D-Mac on Aug 15, 2007 13:18:30 GMT -5
always offer them scholarship first thing.
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Post by JacktheRipper on Aug 15, 2007 15:24:44 GMT -5
always offer them scholarship first thing. I find it better to hold off on scholies on the 3 star or less kids and offer them when they have you as number one. If they don't, offer them late. The bigger fish you almost have to offer to stay in the game. I've played 4 seasons (I'm addicted), and I sign about 95% of my guys out of season. I lose quite a few players in season, so I'm looking to do better there. Now that I've raised Ole Miss up to a six star, I really hope I can raise my in season numbers. So far, no dice.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Aug 15, 2007 16:15:44 GMT -5
Well, what I really do is when I call them, I keep finding their pitches, and then once the football turns to a mad face, offer them a schollie to turn it to happy.
Also, I usually find out about 3 pitches per week per recruit. Swaying helps a lot too.
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Post by bearcat on Aug 15, 2007 20:04:17 GMT -5
always offer them scholarship first thing. I find it better to hold off on scholies on the 3 star or less kids and offer them when they have you as number one. If they don't, offer them late. The bigger fish you almost have to offer to stay in the game. I've played 4 seasons (I'm addicted), and I sign about 95% of my guys out of season. I lose quite a few players in season, so I'm looking to do better there. Now that I've raised Ole Miss up to a six star, I really hope I can raise my in season numbers. So far, no dice. This is along the lines of my thinking. Like noted in the first post, almost all schools with recruits only have a few committed, so I guess I shouldn't be hitting the panic button yet. I'm 8-2 heading into the USC game, and I have some big dogs visiting. Hopefully I can pull out a win or keep it close and sway some of these guys to go ahead and pull the trigger. Oh, and swaying does help. However, I swayed a guy all the way from fifth to the top of my list, only to commit to Arkansas, who is around 5-5 or so in my dynasty. Ouch. But this recruiting system is MUCH more fun. I love it.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Aug 15, 2007 20:09:18 GMT -5
Well, I had only three committments until I got to my 11th game, and I ended up with 18 in all (I would've had more, but I only had 11 open schollies). It takes a while for most recruits to commit to a user school.
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Post by bearcat on Aug 15, 2007 20:21:05 GMT -5
This might be a little minor, but I figure that most top recruits would have more offers than what I've seen so far. I recruited a guy (wound up at Michigan) that had just four offers - me (ASU), Michigan, Cal, and USC. He was a five-star RB from CA, BTW.
I wonder if he had more offers that were from outside his top 10. Of course, they only show the top 10, so you can't see who's offered outside of that list. Would be cool if you could see his other offers from teams other than the ones in his top 10.
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Post by JacktheRipper on Aug 15, 2007 20:28:01 GMT -5
My main goal in season is to force them into out of season where I can promise/recruit them into my school. I got two great tailbacks last year doing this (really wish one of them didn't sign, because the other could start next year). Yeah though, they were both soft commits to other schools but wouldn't pull the trigger in-season. I was able to sway them both.
Also, always try to sway pitches. I'll check pitches on things I suck at (Academics, Playing Time) and try and sway those down. That and don't try to sway up things you have in common with other schools. Like if I have to pass UF and Bama, I'm not going to try and make conference prestigue better because it leaves us in the same position. I don't even know if this matters, but I just do it anyway.
That being said, I've been happy with my recruiting for the past four seasons. Have a senior QB and RB that have started every game in their career. It seems like you get a chance to "coach up" players. I've only landed two 5* players, one who has been a Percy Harvin type player and a TE who has been golden when I've gotten him into a game. The rest of my team is made up of a few 4* but a good group of 3* and even 2* who have stepped up. It's been a joy this year to kind and "get to know" these players via recruiting and then watch them put on a show in the field.
I'm going to make a topic at the end of this season to talk about players who really made a difference in your dynasties.
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Post by wiskyfootball on Aug 16, 2007 0:40:24 GMT -5
I too get at most 3-4 players in-season. So far I'm like 7 weeks in at Wisconsin mind you and have 0 recruits. No one on my board has signed with anyone and I have 5-6 5* recruits. I'm not sure what the point of in-season recruiting is really besides swaying recruits to come to your school. I love the new recruiting, but in-season takes just a little to long for my taste. I love recruiting, why i get NCAA over Madden, but I want to do my recruiting in the off-season.
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Post by Cubbyfan99 on Aug 17, 2007 0:06:55 GMT -5
I found that length is key, at the start of the season I pick 10 recruits and let the CPU auto fill, then between the 10 I recruit two per week spending 5 hours and that sends them up most of the way. But the best way (for me that I found) is that with length and happiness will contribute, and you can keep jumping between two different pitches and they will stay happy assuming your good in the catergories and they like the pitches.
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Post by cooljayhu on Aug 17, 2007 14:44:37 GMT -5
Very Helpful Guide to Recruiting: www.maddenmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164875Basically one of the keys I have found is to not worry about the smiley face in terms of overall interest. It really only tells you how the current convo is going. Also the only way to increase interest is to have the higher on your list and to sway pitches. And Bama good point about swaying in terms of not swaying cause schools ahead of you are the same or better. I haven't seen any effect on that in my recruits but it is something I will keep an eye on. The biggest piss-off I have had is in my second year the #2 overall recruit, a MLB with B+ speed, soft committed to me in week 10ish only to sign with michigan (and sit on the bench for the next 3 years cause they signed the #1 MLB the year before) the next week. My biggest get so far (although the recruitment is far from over) is going from out of the #1 recruits top 10 to 1st on his list in just 6 weeks.
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Post by D-Mac on Aug 19, 2007 22:27:19 GMT -5
Well, what I really do is when I call them, I keep finding their pitches, and then once the football turns to a mad face, offer them a schollie to turn it to happy. Also, I usually find out about 3 pitches per week per recruit. Swaying helps a lot too. The face doesnt matter a guy can be mad at u and still sign, make sure the pitch is completed not if the face is happy or not. the face does not increase the interest.
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Post by Sportsbuck on Aug 20, 2007 12:58:34 GMT -5
I know it doesn't matter about whether or not they sign, but I want to keep it happy during the convo so I can find out as many pitches/sway as many pitches as I can.
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