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Post by paranoia13 on Apr 27, 2007 4:34:48 GMT -5
This is The Way the Draft is suppose to end up....
First round picks of the ravens from there first year
First-Round Draft Picks -- Baltimore
Year Player Pos. School
2006 Haloti Ngata DT Oregon
2005 Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma
2004 No Pick -- --
2003 Terrell Suggs DE Arizona State
Kyle Boller QB California
2002 Ed Reed S Miami (Fla.)
2001 Todd Heap TE Arizona State
2000 Jamal Lewis RB Tennessee
Travis Taylor WR Florida
1999 Chris McAlister CB Arizona
1998 Duane Starks CB Miami (Fla.)
1997 Peter Boulware DE Florida State
1996 Jonathan Ogden OT UCLA
Ray Lewis LB Miami
There migth only be one bust in all of them with that being Travis Taylor ..... You cant say Kyle Boller yet because he has shown some flashes in the past season when he step in for Mcnair......
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Post by darjarbinx on Apr 27, 2007 5:32:32 GMT -5
Indianapolis had better first rounders.
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Post by Loki on Apr 27, 2007 10:06:17 GMT -5
Boller and Taylor are busts and Haloti Ngata and Clayton haven't really had seasons of greatness either yet so I don't think it's fair to make them sound like they were fabulous picks yet...we'll see on them.
Did you even look at other teams past drafts?
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Post by bearcat on Apr 27, 2007 10:28:08 GMT -5
I tend to think the Ravens have drafted very well over this amount of time. I agree that Boller and Taylor are beyond busts, but guys like Ed Reed, Todd Heap, Ray Lewis, and Terrell Suggs are some of the best players at their positions. Chris McAlister and Jonathan Ogden are both solid contributors as well.
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Post by Cerrano39 on Apr 27, 2007 10:57:05 GMT -5
Duane Starks stinks. Had a couple good seasons. But not first round material. Baltimore does draft incredibly well.
Personally, I'll take New England over most any team.
Laurence Maroney, Logan Mankins, Vince Wilfork, Ben Watson, Ty Warren, Daniel Graham, Richard Seymour, Damien Woody, and Robert Edwards (freak injury after great rookie year).
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Post by bearcat on Apr 27, 2007 11:45:12 GMT -5
Even though they were first-rounders already, I think that Maroney and Mankins were steals. I figured that Maroney would be at least a top-15 pick last year.
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Post by paranoia13 on Apr 27, 2007 12:02:20 GMT -5
I have look at other Teams first rounders and as for Indy they have done very good lately but in the past they have picked some serious busts.... Look at the Ravens draft theres seriously like 4 to 5 hall of famers on there since they began there franchise in 96.... For the Patriots why would you take two first round tigth ends in just a year apart makes no sense .... But the worst team to ever Draft is without a doubt the Detroit Lions...
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Post by Cerrano39 on Apr 27, 2007 12:04:29 GMT -5
If you want to go back to 1993, you get, Drew Bledsoe, Willie McGinest, Ty Law, Terry Glenn, Chris Canty, and Tebucky Jones and Andy Katzenmoyer. Canty is by far the worst. Katzenmoyer was promising, but injuries derailed him. Jones and Glenn under preformed.
Gostkowski in the 4th, Tully Banta-Cain and David Givens in the 7th, Patrick Pass in the 7th, Jarvis Green in the 4th as well as Asante Samuel, Dan Koppen in the 5th, oh, and some guy named Tom Brady in the 6th. He's ok.
Perhaps I'm biased in thinking NE is the best, but they are undoubtedly top 3 in the past 5-10 years.
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Post by paranoia13 on Apr 27, 2007 12:08:22 GMT -5
Ok i have to give it up you Cerrano but i still dont understand the Why Two First round Tigth Ends....
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Post by Cerrano39 on Apr 27, 2007 12:09:11 GMT -5
I have look at other Teams first rounders and as for Indy they have done very good lately but in the past they have picked some serious busts.... Look at the Ravens draft theres seriously like 4 to 5 hall of famers on there since they began there franchise in 96.... For the Patriots why would you take two first round tigth ends in just a year apart makes no sense .... But the worst team to ever Draft is without a doubt the Detroit Lions... The Patriots run 2 tight end sets all the time. Graham is one the best blocking tight ends in the league and Watson (although he has come no where near matching his potential) can stretch a defense. Watson was a value pick. Now, Graham is gone so the pick does not look so bad. And this is why.... www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NQaQ0Xngbc |
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Post by cooljayhu on Apr 27, 2007 14:44:49 GMT -5
that definitely should have been the pats ball. and bearcat how is ogden a "solid contributer"? Is probably one of the greatest left tackles to play the game and was (and sometimes still is) completely dominant.
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Post by Freak93 on Apr 27, 2007 15:53:45 GMT -5
If we are taking first rounders, that is good. The key to the draft is drafting well every round. I will stick with the Eagles there. Donovan McNabb, Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard, Michael Lewis, Mike Patterson, Shawn Andrews, Brian Westbrook, L.J. Smith, they find the solid players. They seem to have the talent in finding undrafted players and turning them into good players.
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Post by Maize on Apr 27, 2007 16:41:40 GMT -5
Can we atleast agree the Lions is the worst  |
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Post by paranoia13 on Apr 27, 2007 16:53:11 GMT -5
yes we can...
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Post by Sportsbuck on Apr 27, 2007 19:19:36 GMT -5
Actually, in the past 15 years, the Bengals have had way worse drafts.
David Klinger. Ki-Jana Karter. Dan Wilkinson. Akili Smith. Peter Warrick. John Copeland. Chris Perry.
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Post by bearcat on Apr 27, 2007 19:59:35 GMT -5
that definitely should have been the pats ball. and bearcat how is ogden a "solid contributer"? Is probably one of the greatest left tackles to play the game and was (and sometimes still is) completely dominant. You just said it yourself. "Sometimes still is" dominant. He's good, but starting on the decline. He's still a top five left tackle, but I wouldn't call him dominant anymore. |
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Post by cooljayhu on Apr 28, 2007 13:17:25 GMT -5
I just can't see calling a guy that is in my opinion a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame a "solid contributer". While he is not all the time dominant have you ever seen anyone dominant or even beat him really at all. The man is probably the best left tackle in history and is one of the top 3-5 in the league right now. In my opinion that is much more than a solid contributer.
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