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Post by Freak93 on Aug 6, 2005 18:19:01 GMT -5
He did it intentionally.
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Post by Abbie on Aug 6, 2005 18:31:42 GMT -5
i agree
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Post by allstarmike2k5 on Aug 6, 2005 19:10:02 GMT -5
it is like he said? Why take them? he knew he would get 3000 hits and all that jazz....why risk it now? that is why I think he is innocent...btw I hate the O's too so no bias
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Post by Alex Confer on Aug 6, 2005 19:18:38 GMT -5
You always seem to defend the athletes ASM. Doctors who specialize in human growth supplements (more or less steroids) said the level in Raffy's system was easily detectable and the potency was off the charts. You can't get that over the counter in a protein shake.
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Post by Freak93 on Aug 6, 2005 20:00:05 GMT -5
He knew he would get 3000 hits cuz he had the power of the juice.
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Post by Bibby10 on Aug 6, 2005 20:29:18 GMT -5
Raffy is full of crap now and I quote this from the paper. "I never lie, I may have accedently lied."
He should be tested for crack now.
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Post by Freak93 on Aug 6, 2005 20:30:54 GMT -5
If he makes it to the Hall Of Fame before/if Pete Rose does, I will never watch baseball again.
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Post by Bibby10 on Aug 6, 2005 20:41:41 GMT -5
If he makes it to the Hall Of Fame, I will never watch baseball again.
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Post by nafsder2007 on Aug 6, 2005 22:45:41 GMT -5
It wasn't intentional. He wouldn't be taking anything that could potentially disrupt the effects of his Viagra. OK...bad joke of the night over. Nobody else can even try to top that one. Now for the real part of the post. I agree with Freak here, not with Bibby. If Gaylord Perry, Don Sutton, and Whitey Ford, who all doctored baseballs on a regular basis and occasionaly spoke openly about it, are in the Hall of Fame, then there is no reason to keep one of the greatest, and most under rated, offensive players of the 90's from Cooperstown. It is simply naive to believe that some of the sluggers of the 70's, 80's, and 90's now immortilized in the baseball hall of fame never used steroids. While the late 90's saw steroid use at its height, steroids have been a part of baseball for decades. As far back as the 50's, steroids were readily available for athletes, and to think that Ted Kluszewski, Brian Downing, and "gasp," possibly even guys like Yaz (jumps from 18 in 594 at bats to 44 in 579 just one year later) didn't use them in one way or another is just plain stupid. You can't hold a guy out of the Hall for trying to gain the same advantages that all the Consecos, Caminitis, and Giambis already have. But then again, you can't put a guy who cheated in before you put a guy like Pete Rose in. Rose was too competitive to bet against his team. He would never throw a game. I mean, the guy was so determined to win that he ended a guys career while playing at 110% in the freaking all star game.
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Post by Freak93 on Aug 6, 2005 23:37:34 GMT -5
I am surprised that Pete Rose has not be brought up in all of this Hall Of Fame talk.
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Post by cubs128 on Aug 7, 2005 0:34:59 GMT -5
He knew he was taking it.
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Post by allstarmike2k5 on Aug 7, 2005 14:27:13 GMT -5
You always seem to defend the athletes ASM. Doctors who specialize in human growth supplements (more or less steroids) said the level in Raffy's system was easily detectable and the potency was off the charts. You can't get that over the counter in a protein shake. Not everytime...I am just saying...with all that he already had...why risk it? I dont see a real reason for him to take it...he knew he was a hall of famer and all that jazz...why risk it? And the reason I defend the athlete most of the time....most people on here bash athlete's like they are lazy bums....they do more hard work then anyone on this board will ever do...people just think they sit at home and then go perform when it is game time...that isnt true....and if any of you have even played high school sports you would know how much hard work they put in
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Post by Freak93 on Aug 7, 2005 14:56:43 GMT -5
We know how much hard work it is. We get mad when they do something like take steriods or complain when they find that over $7 million in a matter of 7 months of work is not enough. That is why some athletes deserved to be bashed.
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Post by Bibby10 on Aug 7, 2005 15:03:54 GMT -5
And when they don't sign autographs, and treat non-athletes like garbage.
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Post by Freak93 on Aug 7, 2005 15:09:48 GMT -5
Well, I don't care if they don't sign autographs sometimes. Mostly, it is when they are trying to leave the stadium after a loss and the athlete just doesn't want to talk or anything, than he gets a bad rap.
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Post by allstarmike2k5 on Aug 7, 2005 15:10:53 GMT -5
And when they don't sign autographs, and treat non-athletes like garbage. You dont get it...they can do that though...what do they care if someone hates them it happens all over....im not saying it is right becuase it isnt....but they do it becuase they can
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Post by BstnRdSx on Aug 7, 2005 21:04:55 GMT -5
Ask any player what it feels like to be booed coming to the plate, coming to the mound, making a shot, ect. It gets under their skin.
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Post by allstarmike2k5 on Aug 7, 2005 21:39:53 GMT -5
when only like 5-10 people are booing it isnt bad considering there are a couple thousand people there
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Post by BstnRdSx on Aug 8, 2005 6:02:59 GMT -5
Idiot. A lot more people are going to boo if your a public jerk, hell, Manny even got booed because he 'requested a trade'. If your an ass to the media, everyone is going to consistantly boo you.
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Post by Bibby10 on Aug 8, 2005 6:22:46 GMT -5
Yeah ASM, no athlete wants to get boo'ed by their home fans. If athletes act direspectful, the fans will shoot that right back at them.
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