All Star voting

[dkgojackets]

What's your ballot look like?

NL
C - Russell Martin
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Jose Reyes
3B - Miguel Cabrera
OF - Matt Holliday
OF - Barry Bonds
OF - Aaron Rowand

AL
C - Jorge Posada
1B - Carlos Pena
2B - BJ Upton
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Magglio Ordonez
OF - Ichiro
OF - Vladimir Guerrero

[McGahee]

NL
C - Russell Martin
1B - Ryan Howard
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Jimmy Rollins
3B - Miguel Cabrera
OF - Shane Victorino
OF - Matt Holliday
OF - Aaron Rowand

AL
C - Joe Buck
1B - Mark Teixiera
2B - B.J. Upton
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Magglio Ordonez
OF - Ichiro Suzuki
OF - Carl Crawford

My NL I biased towards the Phils and I gave Teixiera and Upton votes even though they probably won't be able to play...

[darjarbinx]

Shane Victorino's average isn't high enough to be an all star. It's only around .280, but other than that he'd be a lock. If he were hitting .320 that would definitely warrant a spot.

[Sportsbuck]

Griffey should definately be an All-Star.

.285, 19 HR, 44 RBI's this year. He's got my vote, no doubt.

[dkgojackets]

There's no way in hell he's better than Holliday or Bonds, and there is a big crowd for the third NL OF spot. I'm going with Rowand's 25 point advantage in BA and his higher OBP (and VORP). Byrnes, Lee, Hawpe, and Soriano also should get some consideration.

[bearcat]

mcgahee26 said:

AL C - John Buck

Fixed. ;D

Although he won't get it, he should be at least considered. Leads AL C's in HR with 13, and is hitting around .270, which isn't bad for a catcher. He could have better numbers if Buddy Bell wasn't such an idiot and play Jason LaRue and his .120 average every two of five games.

[detroitbasketball]

I'd like to thank you all for having Ordonez on your ballots....

I don't really care. All-Star voting in every sport is a sham. It's a miracle if half the starters actually deserve the nod...

[Jay [FSU]]

NL
C - Russell Martin
1B - Prince Fielder
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Jose Reyes
3B - David Wright
OF - Hunter Pence
OF - Alfonso Soriano
OF - Barry Bonds

AL
C - Victor Martinez
1B - Kevin Youkilis
2B - Julio Lugo
SS - Derek Jeter
3B - Alex Rodriguez
OF - Magglio Ordonez
OF - Ichiro Suzuki
OF - Grady Sizemore

[McGahee]

tbbearcat5 said:

mcgahee26 said:

AL C - John Buck

Fixed. ;D

Although he won't get it, he should be at least considered. Leads AL C's in HR with 13, and is hitting around .270, which isn't bad for a catcher. He could have better numbers if Buddy Bell wasn't such an idiot and play Jason LaRue and his .120 average every two of five games.

God shoot me, I mistook a legendary Royals catcher with the most annoying broadcaster in the world...

But yeah, the Royals only potential candidates to make the game are Buck, Teahan, and Gil Meche. And if Soria was still closing games with the way he's been pitching could get some consideration as well.

[darjarbinx]

Griffey will probably make the team because everyone needs one player, and the only consensus seems to be My Boo: Chase Utley.

[dkgojackets]

detroitbasketball said:

I'd like to thank you all for having Ordonez on your ballots....

I don't really care. All-Star voting in every sport is a sham. It's a miracle if half the starters actually deserve the nod...

Mostly just Mets or Yankees homers voting. Now several Yankee players do have deserving numbers, like Posada, Jeter, and A-Rod, but only a complete dumbass or Met worshiper can have David Wright or someone like that in.

[Freak93]

That is what I hate, uneducated people voting on the game. I was on the topic of Jorge Posada with a friend. He was trying to say there was no way Jorge should be on the team and was pulling horse shit catchers out of no where. It is one thing to say that because of Jorge being a Yankee but this person truly felt he was not worth of it.

[darjarbinx]

I'm only going to do the NL because I don't follow the AL that much. I'll also add a couple of the top considerations.

C - Russell Martin (Benjie Molina, Brian McCann)
* Martin's and Molina's statistics are identical, but Martin plays on a much better team.

1B - Prince Fielder (Derrek Lee, Albert Pujols)
* No doubt the NL's leading home run hitter gets the nod over the batting champ as of now.

2B - Chase Utley (Dan Uggla, Brandon Phillips)
* Utley is a no-brainer, he leads all NL 2B in every offensive category. I like Uggla for his power and Phillips for his all around play.

SS - Jose Reyes (JJ Hardy, Edgar Renteria)
* Reyes is an animal on the basepath, Hardy's got the power, and Renteria has a little bit of everything.

3B - Miguel Cabrera (Aramis Ramirez, David Wright)
* Cabrera is nuts, the dude is only 23! Ramirez has the power and Wright has the fan support.

OF - Matt Holliday, Carlos Lee, Ken Griffey Jr. (Brad Hawpe, Aaron Rowand, Shane Victorino, Jason Bay, Adam Dunn)
* Holiday and Lee are both beasts and Ken Griffey is quitely having a 40 home run season. Brad Hawpe is the forgotten guy in Colorado while Rowand and Victorino are consistent. Dunn strikes out way too much, but deserves a reserve spot.

SP - Jake Peavy, Brad Penny, Cole Hamels, Ben Sheets, John Smoltz
* Peavy leads NL in ERA and K's, so he should definitely start.

RP - Francisco Cordero, Jose Valverde
* Top two in saves this season.

[dkgojackets]

Bonds' .490 on base percentage not even good enough for consideration? Wow.

[detroitbasketball]

david said:

Bonds' .490 on base percentage not even good enough for consideration? Wow.

Because he gets intentionally walked all the time? Some prize.

[Jay [FSU]]

Still, numbers are numbers.

[darjarbinx]

Bonds only has 11 homers and 31 RBI's, all of the guys above get pitched to more often and hit better than him consistently. Plus I hate Bonds.

[McGahee]

jnelson14 said:

Still, numbers are numbers.

I think he should make the team (not necessarily start) but it's not much of a number to have to his credit. If Chase Utley had a .400 on base percentage, it would be more impressive, because Chase Utley doesn't get walked twice a game.

And DJB, as of now Peavy leads in Ks... him and Cole Hamels have been going back and forth all season, but I'm not gonna argue he should start, so I don't know why I brought it up...

Howard and Morneau will both make it. Howard's red hot (1 of every 3 hits is a HR; .288 in June) and Morneau has good enough numbers (20 homers .280 average) that for the recognition of being MVP last year will get in...

[darjarbinx]

I kept getting ready for you to disagree with me, and you never did.

[dkgojackets]

detroitbasketball said:

david said:

Bonds' .490 on base percentage not even good enough for consideration? Wow.

Because he gets intentionally walked all the time? Some prize.

And if all IBBs were outs he would still have the highest OBP. What's your point?