Should prayer be allowed at school sports events??

[I am a huge CUNT]

I don't see the big deal with the coach leading it. Does he have to give up his religion to please the one kid?

[Freak93]

msuspartan2 said:

I don't see the big deal with the coach leading it. Does he have to give up his religion to please the one kid?

Should a student athlete be outcast from his team because he doesn't care about religion?

[Claytons Crew]

I respect all of your views on this matter, I really do.

But don't you think you guys are just taking it a little to far? In the 80's this would not even be a problem or a question. The majority of the world believes in God. If the majority of the team believes in God then let them pray. If there are guys or even a guy thats does not believe or care then thats just something he is missing out on and that is the love and care from the dear lord.

Saying he looks stupid and would feel stupid is just dumb. It's his beliefs and if thats what they are then there is nothing wrong with that. If he stands next to the guys and doesn't do anything then so what he's just doing what he believes in and there is nothing that makes him an outcast or look stupid.

Just leave it alone. You guys are never going to find the right answer because everyone has their own views and opinions.

[Keeper]

msuspartan2 said:

I don't see the big deal with the coach leading it. Does he have to give up his religion to please the one kid?

If you're paid by the school, religion is a no-no.

[detroitbasketball]

freak93 said:

msuspartan2 said:

I don't see the big deal with the coach leading it. Does he have to give up his religion to please the one kid?

Should a student athlete be outcast from his team because he doesn't care about religion?

I still don't see how he's an outcast cause he doesn't pray. If he can't handle standing up for his beliefs, that's his problem.

[Claytons Crew]

detroitbasketball said:

freak93 said:

Should a student athlete be outcast from his team because he doesn't care about religion?

I still don't see how he's an outcast cause he doesn't pray. If he can't handle standing up for his beliefs, that's his problem.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[detroitbasketball]

claytonscrew said:

detroitbasketball said:

I still don't see how he's an outcast cause he doesn't pray. If he can't handle standing up for his beliefs, that's his problem.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I just managed to say it in less words

[Keeper]

People are going to pray before games, it's practically tradition. All I'm saying is, there are ways to go about it, where it doesn't make someone feel like they aren't part of the team, that I would personally prefer.

[I am a huge CUNT]

I just don't see why the kid would care if he was out of something if he didn't support it.

If he had a problem with it, he wouldn't say anything. He would be in the prayer right with us.

[Freak93]

I was having this discussion today and a good point was brought up.

So let's say prayer to 'God' was going on at a sporting event. Let's say I starting praying to my 'God', Lucifer. Would this be offensive to people who are on the other side of the locker room/field praying to their 'God'? I just feel that more then likely, if I was their worshiping Satan, I would take heat for it.

I guess what I am wondering is, for those of you who believe in the standard image of 'God' and pray to him, would you be upset if I was worshiping Satan? Would you try and stop me?

[I am a huge CUNT]

freak93 said:

Would you try and stop me?

No. You are just outcasting yourself. It's your choice.

Same with the kid on my team. He doesn't want to do what the rest of the team is doing, so be it. We don't care. It's his decision. No one else's. You don't want to be an outcast, shut your mouth and do what the rest of us do.

[Freak93]

msuspartan2 said:

freak93 said:

Would you try and stop me?

You don't want to be an outcast, shut your mouth and do what the rest of us do.

So conform to something that one believes is outrageous just to be viewed as equal?

[Sportsbuck]

If you don't like it, don't play the damn sport, or transfer schools.

[JacktheRipper]

sportsbuck2745 said:

If you don't like it, don't play the damn sport, or transfer schools.

Such a narrow damn world view. Belief in God isn't nessisary to play a sport. Look, the atheist kids shouldn't get their panties in a bunch over this kind of thing, but the Christian people shouldn't look down at them or see them as an "outcast" for not doing things the same way they do.

[I am a huge CUNT]

You aren't getting it. No one on the team cares if some one steps out of our prayer because that's his choice. We don't look down on him like you people keep saying.

What you (Freak) have been saying through this thread, is that we should not do the prayer because of one kid. Isn't that a little hypocritical? It goes both ways.

Why should we stop our prayer because it makes one person uncomfortable? Why should we not carry out our team traditions because of one person? I feel religion is important for sporting events. I really do. Why should I have to give that up?

We don't view this kid as not equal. He makes it a big deal with the whole school board because of his decision.

You hate jocks. Should we all just quit playing sports because you hate jocks?

Why should one person be able to dictate the activities of 60 others?

[Sportsbuck]

bamarulz2020 said:

sportsbuck2745 said:

If you don't like it, don't play the damn sport, or transfer schools.

Such a narrow damn world view. Belief in God isn't nessisary to play a sport. Look, the atheist kids shouldn't get their panties in a bunch over this kind of thing, but the Christian people shouldn't look down at them or see them as an "outcast" for not doing things the same way they do.

Not my real view, but I'm just pissed off at people who always try to find something to bitch, moan, and complain about.

Sidenote for Bama: Did you see on DSM that the #2 atheist activist in Illinois is a 14 year old girl, and she also sings in the church choir? hahaha

[Freak93]

msuspartan2 said:

You aren't getting it. No one on the team cares if some one steps out of our prayer because that's his choice. We don't look down on him like you people keep saying.

You don't want to be an outcast, shut your mouth and do what the rest of us do.

[JacktheRipper]

sportsbuck2745 said:

Not my real view, but I'm just pissed off at people who always try to find something to bitch, moan, and complain about.

Sidenote for Bama: Did you see on DSM that the #2 atheist activist in Illinois is a 14 year old girl, and she also sings in the church choir? hahaha

Fair enough.

Oh and yeah I did dude, thought the irony was delicious.

[I am a huge CUNT]

freak93 said:

msuspartan2 said:

You aren't getting it. No one on the team cares if some one steps out of our prayer because that's his choice. We don't look down on him like you people keep saying.

You don't want to be an outcast, shut your mouth and do what the rest of us do.

Where does that say I or any of my teammates look down on him?

If anything, we should look down on him for going and running to mommy and daddy for stopping the whole thing because he wanted to start something.

We have about 13 kids who don't believe in God and have never stepped foot into a church in their lives. Do they want to ruin it for the rest of us? No. They sit there for the 30 seconds it takes and say they it makes them feel team unity that much more.

Who said you had to be praying to God?

Like I've said 50 times before, the kid doesn't have to be an outcast. We welcome him into our group. We want him in our group.

He makes the decision.

[Freak93]

You suggested you are an outcast if you don't join. Aren't you looking at him different now? He doesn't want to be in the team prayer. To me, it seems like you are suggesting with the post of 'shut your mouth and do what the rest of us do' they should just join in the group to make it easier on the majority.