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Post by Cerrano39 on May 12, 2005 21:09:02 GMT -5
Yes, but football is a team sport.  I know. But one crucial part can change the attitude and atmosphere of a locker room. Just look at the Eagles. I know TO was hurt at the end, but you cannot deny his impact on them finally winning the NFC championship. His arrogance gave the team an identity. |
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 12, 2005 21:21:52 GMT -5
I know. But one crucial part can change the attitude and atmosphere of a locker room. Just look at the Eagles. I know TO was hurt at the end, but you cannot deny his impact on them finally winning the NFC championship. His arrogance gave the team an identity. Yeah, but the Eagles were or are not as bad as the Bears so I dont think it will make a bif diffrence. |
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Post by Cerrano39 on May 12, 2005 21:25:31 GMT -5
Yeah, but the Eagles were or are not as bad as the Bears so I dont think it will make a bif diffrence. Ya, but improving even 2 games is a big difference. Perhaps some of Carolina's more winning environment will travel with Muhsin to the Windy City. |
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Post by Leak2Troupe03 on May 12, 2005 23:28:21 GMT -5
About what Da Rafeter said we are running a 4-3 Defense. Cutting Boulware was nothing, it saddened me to see him go because of his past with the team, but we dont need him anymore. We are going to be good with Tommy Polley, Ray Lewis, Adalius Thomas. Dan Cody is supposedly going to get into the mix with those guys, and Terrell Suggs will mix at linebackers and Defensive End like Cody.
Our D-Line will consist of Anthony Weaver, Kelly Gregg, Ma'ake Kemoeatu/Dwan Edwards, Dan Cody/Terrell Suggs. We have so much depth we could go many different ways, thats why we plan on bringing multiple defensive fronts.
About us not making the playoffs, your Broncos only made it because you played the Colts backups and won, you would of never beaten the real Colts just like you didnt in the playoffs. We had a very tough stretch at the end, playing at Indy and at Pittsburgh. Our toughest loss IMO was against Cincinnati, we should of had that damn game and lost by one point after allowing a comeback. But you saying us not making the playoffs, as if it degrades the team for this season, is completely wrong and irrevalant. Just to include, most of the superbowl contenders, minus the Pats, didnt make playoffs the year before.
That list includes the Panthers, Ravens, 99 Rams, Pats of 01, and others before that. So that clearly has nothing to do with the argument of who can/will make the run to Superbowl XL.
To back AJ Rancid he is only expressing hope for his 49ers, its not like he picked them to win it all or something, yet you try and hate on them. If I were AJ all I would say is how many rings do you have compared to SF? You cant knock a franchise 5-0 in Superbowls, you just cant.
About Denver, I think you have a good team there. I'm not here to knock on your team because I understand that they are pretty good, when it comes to football im not ignorant, I know of whos good, whos not. I just question how good you will be in a tough AFC West division against KC who has improved their defense, San Diego, and Oakland's new offense. I watchec Champ get burned last year by Porter, whats he going to do when he lines up against Randy Moss twice a year?
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Post by Da Rafeter on May 13, 2005 6:02:18 GMT -5
About what Da Rafeter said we are running a 4-3 Defense. Cutting Boulware was nothing, it saddened me to see him go because of his past with the team, but we dont need him anymore. We are going to be good with Tommy Polley, Ray Lewis, Adalius Thomas. Dan Cody is supposedly going to get into the mix with those guys, and Terrell Suggs will mix at linebackers and Defensive End like Cody. Our D-Line will consist of Anthony Weaver, Kelly Gregg, Ma'ake Kemoeatu/Dwan Edwards, Dan Cody/Terrell Suggs. We have so much depth we could go many different ways, thats why we plan on bringing multiple defensive fronts. About us not making the playoffs, your Broncos only made it because you played the Colts backups and won, you would of never beaten the real Colts just like you didnt in the playoffs. We had a very tough stretch at the end, playing at Indy and at Pittsburgh. Our toughest loss IMO was against Cincinnati, we should of had that d**n game and lost by one point after allowing a comeback. But you saying us not making the playoffs, as if it degrades the team for this season, is completely wrong and irrevalant. Just to include, most of the superbowl contenders, minus the Pats, didnt make playoffs the year before. That list includes the Panthers, Ravens, 99 Rams, Pats of 01, and others before that. So that clearly has nothing to do with the argument of who can/will make the run to Superbowl XL. To back AJ Rancid he is only expressing hope for his 49ers, its not like he picked them to win it all or something, yet you try and hate on them. If I were AJ all I would say is how many rings do you have compared to SF? You cant knock a franchise 5-0 in Superbowls, you just cant. About Denver, I think you have a good team there. I'm not here to knock on your team because I understand that they are pretty good, when it comes to football im not ignorant, I know of whos good, whos not. I just question how good you will be in a tough AFC West division against KC who has improved their defense, San Diego, and Oakland's new offense. I watchec Champ get burned last year by Porter, whats he going to do when he lines up against Randy Moss twice a year? Denver could have beat the starting Colts in Denver, when manning and the starters where on Manning went 1/2 for 6 yards and James went 1 for -2 yds, you can't say we would have lost because we lost to them big in the playoffs, look at last year when we whipped them big time in their dome and then got beat off them two weeks later, you can't compare like that in the NFL, now AJ Rancid thinks the 69ers will make the playoffs just because of Alex Smith and he wont even be starting the season unless someone gets injured, and I wasn't slagging off the 69ers history, when did I say that? AJ Rancid also said that Frank Gore would get drafted by Indy, get injured and be a bust, but now he was drafted by his favorite team he's acting like he'll be the steal of the draft, thats what I was slagging my friend, and also, Baltimore have tough games, Denver have tough games, Baltimore have easy games, Denver have easy games, we pretty much controlled the Colts back-ups (only stars where rested really not their defense) but you guys could only score 3 points on the Browns in week 1? And by the Ravens not making the playoffs last year making a sign of the teams before hand in the SB's, that is pretty pathetic if thats the back-up the Ravens need, anyway, the Ravens I don't think will even win their division but will probably make the Divisional Game and get defeated. |
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Post by ajrancid on May 13, 2005 6:10:07 GMT -5
AJ Rancid thinks the 69ers will make the playoffs just because of Alex Smith When did I say this? |
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Post by Leak2Troupe03 on May 13, 2005 15:58:46 GMT -5
You completely lost my point of the teams that didnt make playoffs and then went on to the SB the next year. You commented us not making it last year to downgrade what we will be able to do this year, and I was stating thats incorrect because a performance the year before means nothing anymore in the NFL.
You may have beaten the Colts on the road the year before this past one, but that was not the same Colts offense that we saw this season. Peyton lit up almost every opposing defense he played, Stokley, Wayne, and Harrison were too much for just about anyone, and Edgerrin James was healthy. Our Defense did a great job against those starters on the road, and still lost. Something tells me your Broncos wouldnt have won if they would of left Peyton and them in the game.
Like I was saying, this is more of a friendly sports debate than an argument, im not trying to get on your team, im just stating my opinion. BTW, when you said something about the Niners sucking, I was pointing out their past to show that one bad year shouldnt mean much to such a prestigeous program, they will return in a year or two most likely.
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Post by Da Rafeter on May 13, 2005 16:08:07 GMT -5
You completely lost my point of the teams that didnt make playoffs and then went on to the SB the next year. You commented us not making it last year to downgrade what we will be able to do this year, and I was stating thats incorrect because a performance the year before means nothing anymore in the NFL. You may have beaten the Colts on the road the year before this past one, but that was not the same Colts offense that we saw this season. Peyton lit up almost every opposing defense he played, Stokley, Wayne, and Harrison were too much for just about anyone, and Edgerrin James was healthy. Our Defense did a great job against those starters on the road, and still lost. Something tells me your Broncos wouldnt have won if they would of left Peyton and them in the game. Like I was saying, this is more of a friendly sports debate than an argument, im not trying to get on your team, im just stating my opinion. BTW, when you said something about the Niners sucking, I was pointing out their past to show that one bad year shouldnt mean much to such a prestigeous program, they will return in a year or two most likely. Yeah but the Ravens are built (were) all about defense, thats why Kyle boller and the offense couldn't do anything against a horrible Colts defense, the Broncos offense could do a lot more than the Ravens could, so you can't just judge one side of the ball, I mean Denver beat San Diego and just lost to them, but the Manning did NOT, light up the Chargers defense and almost got beat, since its the NFL and not like NCAA FB, you can't ever tell what would happen, Just think, if New England for some reason rested their starters against Miami on Monday Night Football, and Miami beat their back-ups, everybody would have said the Dolphins would have been killed or had no chance, but back-ups can win, Pittsburgh's back-ups somehow beat a rolling Buffalo starting team in a pointless game for Pitt. But anyway even you know the 69ers do suck just and, even if they've had a great past, doesn't mean there gonna totally turn it around, would you say that about the lakers next year or so, some teams can fall and never get back up, I'm not saying that'll be the 69ers, but it could just easily be them, you never know |
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Post by ajrancid on May 13, 2005 16:21:58 GMT -5
But anyway even you know the 69ers do suck just and, even if they've had a great past, doesn't mean there gonna totally turn it around, would you say that about the lakers next year or so, some teams can fall and never get back up, I'm not saying that'll be the 69ers, but it could just easily be them, you never know If you look at the dessisions the team has made since getting Mike Nolan you should see there are signs of improvement. I know it will probally take a couple of seasons but now we trying to turn around things and under Dennis Erickson that wasn't the case. We now have a franchise quarterback who we can build our team around, and Smith was the guy I wanted us to picked since the college season ended. Plus we will have a lot of solid defensive players that were out most of last season back. The move to a 3-4 could work well as we clearly will have enough strength at linebacker for it to work (though we could do with move power up front). Last year I predicted that we would go 2-14, and we did. Now it is hard to get behind a season as much when all you have to look forward to is seeing them lose to the Falcons, Bears and Redskins. But this season their is a lot more hope and that why I will be able to wear my Alex Smith jersey with pride. |
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Post by Da Rafeter on May 13, 2005 16:25:34 GMT -5
Only because they sucked so much last season, and Smith is the next Leaf, they just have that same sort of thing about them, oh, and the 69ers just arn't gonna be good for a while, get over it. By the time their good you would probably have stopped watching football
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Post by ajrancid on May 13, 2005 16:29:30 GMT -5
Only because they sucked so much last season, and Smith is the next Leaf, they just have that same sort of thing about them, oh, and the 69ers just arn't gonna be good for a while, get over it. By the time their good you would probably have stopped watching football Yes, but no matter who the 49ers draft they would be the next Leaf to you. Even if we got your boy Matt Leinart you would probally call him 'the next Leaf'. Smith will have a good power running game to back him up hopefully and his mobility should bail him out a couple of times. And what makes you think I will stop watching football?  |
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Post by Jami on May 13, 2005 16:36:44 GMT -5
THE BEARS? Vikings, Packers, hell maybe even Detroit are better than the BEARS. You had that in the wrong order..it should have read: "Vikings, Lions, hell maybe even Green Bay are better than the Bears." You know, since we have wide receivers who think they're T.O.-caliber after 1 good season following 2-3 extremely disappointing seasons, and we have a runningback who threatens to kill wives. Not to mention a "defense" that just goes for big plays and is afraid to hit anybody with the ball. So yeah...good chance of the Packers finishing dead last in the North. But maybe that's just me..ever the optimist, eh? |
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Post by Da Rafeter on May 13, 2005 17:51:08 GMT -5
Yes, but no matter who the 49ers draft they would be the next Leaf to you. Even if we got your boy Matt Leinart you would probally call him 'the next Leaf'. Smith will have a good power running game to back him up hopefully and his mobility should bail him out a couple of times. And what makes you think I will stop watching football? I've always said Smith will be the next Leaf, and if you guys drafted my boy Matt, he wouldn't be a bust, he's won back to back National Championships and still has another year to play, this guy doesn't know how to lose, and thats something a team like SF would need, now just because Utah went undefeated doesn't mean Smith doesn't know how to lose, they had a very easy schedule. And Jami, the only thing that Green Bay can have really to have a Super Bowl run is that if a Super Bowl Favre turns up, and I really doubt that, again, no offense but I see the Packers as one of these teams who had great pasts just stumble for the next few odd year, Radiers, 49ers. But that probably won't happen, again no offense  |
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Post by ajrancid on May 13, 2005 18:02:08 GMT -5
I've always said Smith will be the next Leaf, and if you guys drafted my boy Matt, he wouldn't be a bust, he's won back to back National Championships and still has another year to play, this guy doesn't know how to lose, and thats something a team like SF would need, now just because Utah went undefeated doesn't mean Smith doesn't know how to lose, they had a very easy schedule. And Jami, the only thing that Green Bay can have really to have a Super Bowl run is that if a Super Bowl Favre turns up, and I really doubt that, again, no offense but I see the Packers as one of these teams who had great pasts just stumble for the next few odd year, Radiers, 49ers. But that probably won't happen, again no offense I really shouldn have mention Leinart since he is a much better prospect than Smith. Anyway whoever gets Leinart will probally end up with a great quarterback. And about Green Bay being one of those poor old school teams, it is very true and it sads me to say that. The team is poorly managed, and whe you look at their division things could suddenly get tough. Like the Vikings may now have a defense, the Bears could have made the playoffs last year if not for all those injuries and the Lions, well they have Joey Harrington so they aint going anywhere. Though they did get Mike Williams.  |
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Post by Jami on May 13, 2005 18:07:38 GMT -5
And Jami, the only thing that Green Bay can have really to have a Super Bowl run is that if a Super Bowl Favre turns up, and I really doubt that, again, no offense but I see the Packers as one of these teams who had great pasts just stumble for the next few odd year, Radiers, 49ers. But that probably won't happen, again no offense None taken..I pretty much said the same thing.  GB could manage to get into the playoffs, and that would make me extremely happy. They still have a shot at the playoffs considering that the Bears still suck, the Lions still have no defense, and the Vikings are coached by a guy who could be outcoached by a poo-flinging baboon. |
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Post by SilverChaosVII on May 15, 2005 16:42:06 GMT -5
I think it'll be a rematch...
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It'll be another good one if it is.
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 15, 2005 16:50:46 GMT -5
I think it'll be a rematch... Eagles vs. Patriots It'll be another good one if it is. No, the Patriots will just flat out beat them agian. |
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Post by SilverChaosVII on May 15, 2005 16:53:38 GMT -5
Dude, we only lost by 3 points... |
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 15, 2005 16:54:47 GMT -5
Dude, we only lost by 3 points... But you still lost. |
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Post by SilverChaosVII on May 15, 2005 17:02:46 GMT -5
What's your point... where were the Buccaneers |
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GB could manage to get into the playoffs, and that would make me extremely happy. They still have a shot at the playoffs considering that the Bears still suck, the Lions still have no defense, and the Vikings are coached by a guy who could be outcoached by a poo-flinging baboon.