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Post by NoT25hAbY on Mar 21, 2007 21:25:20 GMT -5
I actually think David Carr is a better QB than Matt Schaub, so I am excited to see where he winds up. I hope Cleveland. I think Cleveland has a good enough line and targets that he can display his natural talent.
Houston wants to trade him, but everybody knows he'll be cut so nobodys taking the bait. It'll be who pays up between Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit and possibly a 4th team that's never mentioned.
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Post by Freak93 on Mar 21, 2007 21:45:32 GMT -5
I agree that Carr has tremendous upside. When you are sacked as much as he was it's hard to show.
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Post by detroitbasketball on Mar 21, 2007 21:48:52 GMT -5
It'll be who pays up between Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit and possibly a 4th team that's never mentioned. Hell no. I don't want ANOTHER QB from THAT draft class. |
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Post by Terps on Mar 22, 2007 20:55:00 GMT -5
Carr never got a chance to throw in Houston, with those horrendous lines. Schaub will fair no better unless they finally shore it up.
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Post by NoT25hAbY on Mar 23, 2007 15:50:49 GMT -5
Texans cut Carr like expected, but also cut Dominick Williams.... Otherwise known as Domanick Davis
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Post by JacktheRipper on Mar 23, 2007 16:21:58 GMT -5
Texans cut Carr like expected, but also cut Dominick Williams.... Otherwise known as Domanick Davis To think, this team could have gotten Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, or Vince Young last year. |
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Post by Loki on Mar 24, 2007 1:43:27 GMT -5
Texans cut Carr like expected, but also cut Dominick Williams.... Otherwise known as Domanick Davis To think, this team could have gotten Reggie Bush, Matt Leinart, or Vince Young last year. Oh come on...Mario Williams was a great pick!  |
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Post by Tarheels Reign Supreame on Mar 24, 2007 8:48:34 GMT -5
Mario Williams was a good pick...but come on now who would you rather have?
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Post by Freak93 on Mar 24, 2007 11:50:41 GMT -5
I hate when people say they should have taken Vince Young. Who knew what Vince Young would have turned in to? If he does go to Houston, does the offense chance to fit him? Not only that, but can you blame the Texans for trying David Carr in Gary Kubiak's offense?
Skipping over Reggie Bush was not the brightest idea. Although, I could see their thought process in it. They had to go one year and than get Dominik Williams back healthy. He would than go into a type of offense like the Denver Broncos run, who have had numerous 1000+ yard rushers.
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Post by detroitbasketball on Mar 24, 2007 11:52:50 GMT -5
They shouldn't have takken Young...or Williams....
They shoulda taken Reggie Bush, taken a little pressure of Carr, and improve the awful offense.
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Post by NoT25hAbY on Mar 24, 2007 20:14:13 GMT -5
In my eyes.... two or three good Runningbacks come along every draft class and three of four quality runningbacks are availavle every year in Free Agency? Why waste a Top 10 pick on a player who could be replaced as easy as a Runningback can be replaced? I'm serious, is Reggie Bush that great?
Is he going to do anything that Adrian Bush cant do this year? That Darrent MCFadden cant do in a couple of years? That some guy we havnt even heard of cant do in 5 years? That a Free Agent wont do this season?
You take the guy who has amazing upside for the position he plays. Last year, it was Mario Williams even though I beleive Vernon Davis was the freak of the class. Mario has raw size, speed, strength and intellegence that you cant teach someone who doesn't? He has the skills to play at an elite level.
This year, it's going to be Calvin Johnson. He also has size, speed, strength, hands, the ability to jump over cars and intellegence. Wide Receivers dont come by like this, so why nab a RB that you can nab any year so-to-say.
All I am saying is that this year... it didn't look like the bright idea, but if he turns into a 10sack season player who runs sideline to sideline and forces a team to gameplan against him. We wont care, because nobody else will be doing that in the NFL... meanwhile, their will be a handfull better or more hyped than God Almighty Reggie Bush haha.
This ends my rant
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Post by Sportsbuck on Mar 24, 2007 20:17:39 GMT -5
The team that can run the ball will win. That's the basic principle that is preached all throughout football.
Hence why Bush and Peterson are so valued.
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Post by Freak93 on Mar 24, 2007 20:41:04 GMT -5
True, but who was the better runner with the Saints? Deuce McAllister. I saw Reggie Bush play against the horrid Eagles run defense and he did not produce that much running. McAllister on the other hand did not.
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Post by bearcat on Mar 24, 2007 20:49:28 GMT -5
I would say that Carr ends up in Miami or KC. If Trent Green is traded to Miami, which sources say they could be close to a deal, I look for the Chiefs to sign him to a short-term, incentive laden deal. If Green isn't traded, I see the Fins getting Carr, and locking him up.
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Post by Tarheels Reign Supreame on Mar 25, 2007 11:40:13 GMT -5
man im quite surprised how quick mia gave up on culpepper.
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Post by Freak93 on Mar 25, 2007 11:59:30 GMT -5
I am not shocked at all. He isn't healthy. It is not saying he is unhealthy with a sprained ankle, he is unhealthy with a major knee injury.
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Post by McGahee on Mar 25, 2007 12:40:48 GMT -5
True, but who was the better runner with the Saints? Deuce McAllister. I saw Reggie Bush play against the horrid Eagles run defense and he did not produce that much running. McAllister on the other hand did not. McAllister is also a what, 8 year vet in the league. Reggie Bush is a rookie. Also, Reggie Bush is a far superior prospect to any scrub back you can get in free agency. Seriously, who was the top FA back that signed? |
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Post by NoT25hAbY on Mar 25, 2007 13:40:26 GMT -5
Last year it was Edgerin James and this year you could say it was Ahman Green(Houston)...
You can't sit there and tell me you want Reggie Bush over Edgerin James in any game except for possibly Madden on Xbox. Also, Ahman Green bounced back and played outstanding last year.
Dont say Reggie Bush is far superior to anybody when he hasn't done anything well but return kicks. He's an overated poor mans Barry Sanders without the strength or intellegence.
Bush is fast and can change direction.... at the NFL level... so can Defensive lineman like Suggs, Freeny and Rice. So can Linebackers like D.J. Williams, Jon Vilma, Ray Lewis. So can the 11 players he will face every week.
I'm just saying.... If Houston gets Adrian Peterson this year like they are kind of expected to.... the Reggie Bush idea will be out the window, because they replaced him...
That's the RB position in the NFL.... Replaceable. The Broncos have proved that many of times. Out goes Marshal Faulk, in comes Steven Jackson. Out goes Terrell Davis, in goes Clinton Portis. Out goes Curtis Martin, in comes Thomas Jones.
Acquiring a physical beast like Mario Williams is more rewarding by far...
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Post by McGahee on Mar 25, 2007 13:56:05 GMT -5
Edge had just as many rushing touchdowns as Reggie Bush did, and that's considering the fact that Bush had 1/3 of the carries, split duties with McAlister, and had a quarterback that threw for plenty of scores himself. He also had a better yards per carry and is easily the primiere receiving back in the league.
So yeah, I'll take 22 year old Bush over 30 year old Edge.
Yeah, the Broncos system works, but not for everyone. Steven Jackson was a first round pick, not some 29 year old free agent. Same thing even with Portis. You haven't even seen Thomas Jones play, so I don't know how you can comment on such a thing, but to say that anybody can get plugged in is ridiculous.
The question really is, do you want a guy (like Edge or Ahman) who can play pretty good but can't be the main focus on offense, or do you want a guy who can be a star in the future (like how LT was and how Reggie Bush is and how Adrian Pederson could be).
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Post by bearcat on Mar 25, 2007 14:54:12 GMT -5
I think Bush is the second best receiving RB in the league. I know he had better stats than did Tomlinson this year, but he's done it for longer. Give him a few more seasons, and he'll overtake him.
Also, I agree that RB's are interchangeable, but Reggie is an outstanding special teams player in returning kicks. Williams had a rather disappointing season, but I think he turns it around next season and gets it going.
And I think Bush will end up being one of the top five RB's in the league, not due to his rushing ability, but his overall skills. He's a pretty rare combo.
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