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Post by Cerrano39 on May 19, 2005 18:36:26 GMT -5
I don't mean to act like I know everything, I just am very passionate against Brady-haters.
You're right. He's not mobile like a Vick, McNabb, C-Pepp. But he is mobile, in the way Manning is. He takes very little side steps to avoid the rush and buy time.
And to say Brady isn't the centerpiece of the New England team is also in correct in my opinion. Yes, the defense is very good. But the offensive game plan they run is quite complex. Not saying he is the only one, but I don't think many quarterbacks have the football IQ that he does to run it. Manning does as well as several others. Mike Vick would be completely lost.
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Da Rafeter
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Post by Da Rafeter on May 19, 2005 18:36:32 GMT -5
And let the flames begin............... Yeah I somewhat second that |
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Post by not2shaby on May 19, 2005 18:58:56 GMT -5
If you want to know the truth, there are few Quarterbacks besides Dan Marino who have had pure talent and should be repsected for that alone. Everyone else had help and got famous through that. That's our problem.
We compare to many people, when you shouldn't. There is good, great, and the greatest. You fall in one of those. Great is everyone from the Kurt Warner era to Bradshaw to Favre. The greatest is Marino.
Tom Brady is going to be a great Quarterback, who should get as much respect as anyone else on the list. Without all the talent like Aikman, Young, and Montana had, he's led his team to a hell of a tenure. Sure on any other team, it might be different. That goes for every Quarterback but Marino tho lol.
So if your hating on Brady stfu, and if your riding his ass stfu lol. Either was he's.... NoT 2 ShAbY
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Post by Freak93 on May 19, 2005 19:14:26 GMT -5
May I ask, what is this for? I have no idea. |
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Post by SilverChaosVII on May 20, 2005 22:04:00 GMT -5
......... should be Westbrook on there but ok............  |
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Post by Cerrano39 on May 20, 2005 22:06:19 GMT -5
......... should be Westbrook on there but ok............ Stop dreaming. |
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Post by SilverChaosVII on May 20, 2005 22:07:50 GMT -5
shove it!
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 20, 2005 22:41:34 GMT -5
Nobody from the whole Eagles team deserves to be on there.
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Post by Ircknewskool on May 20, 2005 22:42:17 GMT -5
please....Brady sucks.
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 20, 2005 22:43:59 GMT -5
Haha stop trying to get an argument going agian. BTW he is much better then Pennington so... |
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Post by Ircknewskool on May 20, 2005 22:45:28 GMT -5
no he isn't. Atleast Pennington throws it away when he should, unlike seat of his pants Brady.
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Post by BstnRdSx on May 21, 2005 5:47:56 GMT -5
Woo, let's argue one play compared to a quarterback who makes loads of mistakes!
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King James
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Post by King James on May 21, 2005 10:44:10 GMT -5
Woo, let's argue one play compared to a quarterback who makes loads of mistakes! oh pwn'ed oh, and my drum set > Tom Brady's life. |
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Post by JETS393 on May 21, 2005 10:58:05 GMT -5
Chad Pennington is the Best QB in the league
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Post by claytonscrew80 on May 21, 2005 11:08:52 GMT -5
Chad Pennington is the Best QB in the league Like I said before how many times has he even led his team to get a sniff the the super bowl? How many times has Brady led his team to sniff and win the super bowl? I'd rather have Harrington over Pennington...well maby not. Jets fans these days, there so biased.  |
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Post by Jami on May 21, 2005 11:37:49 GMT -5
Oh god..let's not start the whole "Pennington vs. Brady Completion Percentage" debate again..
As for the Brady Super Bowl ring argument, sure he had some good drives to get them to that point, but if you didn't have Adam Vinatieri kicking the field goals in the first two SB's, you'd probably have at least one less ring. If John Kasay doesn't kick the ball out of bounds in SB XXXVIII, you might even have two less rings.
Based on that, I don't think Brady deserves all the credit he deserves. He gets a lot of the attention because no one likes to give credit to a kicker or a defense that isn't flashy like Baltimore's. Is he good? Yes, but not worth a 95 in Madden IMO. Maybe a 92 or 93...but then again, Madden has a lot of screwed up ratings for QB's. If Brett Favre is rated a 90 or over, then I'll laugh...he's not that good anymore.
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Post by Cerrano39 on May 21, 2005 12:16:55 GMT -5
Two things, a lot of the bashing on Brady is circumstantial. You can't say what if because it did happen. Kasay did kick out of bounds.
Secondly, I think, as I said earlier, outside New England, Tom Brady is the only marketable face the Patriots have. So, the media will focus on him constantly, annoying and vexing many other football fans. In NE (Boston here), we do not get a Brady overload. Most of the talk does not revolve around the players, but the coaches and Pioli.
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Post by JackTheRipper on May 21, 2005 13:50:47 GMT -5
ok i'm not a tom brady fan, but he is underrated if anything. He led the game winning drive in their first two super bowl wins and he wasn't super bowl MVP for nothing. yes, the defense is great, but if brady wasn't there to calmly lead the offense in pressure situations, vinatieri may have never hit those two kicks that made his career. that simple
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Post by Tarheels Reign Supreame on Jul 2, 2005 5:16:39 GMT -5
y mcnabb, should'hve been someone else
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Post by Freak93 on Jul 2, 2005 10:29:00 GMT -5
y mcnabb, should'hve been someone else Who? I mean if you ask me Donovan McNabb had a great season. He was the second best QB last year behind Peyton Manning. Please, don't even say Michael Vick. |
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